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  1. had to resort to asking here as keep getting the run around.

    off on a five week course within the uk and wondering what I am entitled to allowance wise.

    married unaccompanied in the UK, living in the mess, not paying for food as on over 37 package and getting GYH(M).

    I know I can claim IE for starters, any mess bill encurred can I claim back and my main question is will I get LSA or not ? not working over weekends, so can get home for them.

    any help would be more than grateful as I am getting no where at work on this.

    oh and if you know chapter and verse that would be even better.
     
  2. JSP 752:

    CHAPTER 5

    SECTION 1

    LONGER SEPARATION ALLOWANCE

    GENERAL

    05.0101. Aim. The aim of Longer Separation Allowance (LSA) is to support and improve retention by compensating those personnel experiencing separation over and above that compensated for by the X-Factor element within basic pay. As a general principle, it is paid at increasing amounts in order to target those who experience the most separation throughout their service. Payment of the allowance recognises the disadvantages of separation caused when return to the duty station at weekends/stand-down is precluded by either the nature or location of the duty. It also provides some support for those who are voluntarily separated from their immediate family.

    05.0102. Income Tax and National Insurance Contributions (NICs). LSA attracts a personal liability for Income Tax and NICs. These are deducted automatically from the Service person’s salary.

    DEFINITIONS

    05.0103. LSA Specific Definitions. For the purposes of this allowance:

    a. Involuntary and Voluntary Separation. The definitions of Involuntary Separation (INVOLSEP) and Voluntary Separation (VOLSEP) are in Chapter 1 Section 2 Annex B.

    b. Family Home. The definition of family home is in Chapter 1 Section 2.

    c. Permanent Residence. The definition of permanent residence (for a single Service person) is in Chapter 1 Section 2.

    d. Duty Station. The definition of duty station is in Chapter 1 Section 2.

    e. Qualifying Separation (QS). Qualifying Separation (QS) is defined as 7 consecutive days or more INVOLSEP that is taken at a location that precludes return to the duty station, family home or permanent residence during normal stand down periods (eg weekends). For eligibility for personnel on board sea-going qualifying vessels see sub-paragraph 05.0103e(2), for personnel serving under Field Conditions see sub-paragraph 050103e(3) and for eligibility for those in OTR posts see paragraph 05.0114. QS does not start to accrue for new entrant officers until completion of initial officer training at the appropriate single Service officer training college BRNC, RMAS or RAF College Cranwell (but see paragraph 05.0124 for those Service personnel commissioned from the ranks). For new entrant non-commissioned ranks, LSA starts to accrue after 26 weeks of Service (on the move from new entrant rate of pay to basic pay level one or higher) or on completion of Phase 2 training, whichever is the earlier. A Service person will be deemed to be undertaking QS if they are:

    (1) On temporary duty for a period of 7 consecutive days or more and are unable to spend a minimum period of 24 hours at their duty station, family home or permanent residence within a weekend (or period of time off in lieu) due to the nature or location of the temporary duty.

    (2) Permanently or temporarily assigned to a Seagoing LSA Qualifying Unit (SLQU) (see definition at Chapter 1 Section 2) where the requirement to complete 7 consecutive days or more separation is waived and LSA is payable from the 1st day of qualifying separation, but only for periods whilst the Service person is:

    (a) At sea.

    (b) Alongside in ports outside the UK Theatre.

    (c) At anchor or a buoy in UK waters.

    (d) Alongside in UK ports other than a ship’s Base Port for periods not exceeding 14 days.

    (e) A member of a submarine nuclear propulsion watch when nuclear safety regulations require the maintenance of sea watches alongside, including in Base Port.

    In all of these circumstances entitlement to LSA will cease during periods that a Service person returns to the family home or permanent residence. Where ships visits, programmed to complete within 14 days, are extended, entitlement to LSA will cease immediately. LSA will not be paid when alongside in Base Port. It will also not be paid during visits to other UK ports for periods of 15 days or more, as seagoers are likely to become eligible for GYH (Travel) at this point (see Section 2 of this Chapter).

    (3) Serving on a period of temporary duty of 24 hours or more away from a permanent duty station where Field Conditions for both Food and Single Living Accommodation have been declared in accordance with the regulations contained within JSP 754. In these circumstances the requirement to complete 7 consecutive days or more separation is waived and LSA is payable from the 1st day of qualifying separation.

    (4) Serving on an exchange assignment in a ship which corresponds to the definition of an SLQU (see Chapter 1 Section 2). They will be allocated an appropriate overseas Base Port which will equate to a UK Base Port. Entitlement to LSA and other separation allowances are as detailed in paragraph 05.0103e(2).

    (5) Admitted as an in-patient to hospital or Rehabilitation Centre for a period of 7 consecutive days or more where the nature of the treatment precludes travel to the permanent duty station, family home or permanent residence during normal standown periods (eg weekends), unless they are in receipt of LSA on the day that they are admitted, in which case QS continues without a break.

    (6) Permanently assigned to a designated LSA payment area (see paragraph 05.0111).

    (7) Permanently assigned to a designated OTR post and temporarily absent on duty for 4 or more, but less than 7 days (see paragraphs 05.0113 to 05.0116).

    (8) Already qualified for LSA and then opting to serve unaccompanied for the duration of a permanent assignment to a different Theatre from the family home (see paragraphs 05.0117 to 05.0122 for further clarification).

    f. Initial Qualifying Period. With effect from 1 April 2007 the 100 day Initial Qualifying Period will be abolished.

    ELIGIBILITY

    05.0104. Eligible Service Personnel. Service personnel (irrespective of PStat Cat) will be eligible for payment of LSA if they satisfy the specific eligibility criteria for any one of the following 3 types of separation:

    a. Involuntary Separation (INVOLSEP) (see paragraphs 05.0108 to 05.0112).

    b. Separation in On The Road (OTR) posts (see paragraphs 05.0113 to 05.0116).

    c. Voluntary Separation (VOLSEP) (see paragraphs 05.0117 to 05.0122).

    05.0105. Reserve Forces Personnel. Members of the Reserve Forces, and Cadet Force Adult Volunteers, will be eligible for LSA in line with their Regular counterparts (but see paragraph 05.0107g).

    05.106. Reserved.

    INELIGIBILITY

    05.0107. Ineligible Service Personnel. Service personnel will be ineligible to receive LSA when:

    a. In receipt of Get You Home (GYH) Travel allowance for the same period of separation. However, entitlement to GYH (Early Years) (GYH(EY)) and the accumulation of GYH (Seagoers) (GYH(S))/GYH(S) Additional Journeys is unaffected by payment of LSA. LSA ceases for the period a GYH(EY), GYH(S) or GYH(S) Additional Journey is undertaken.

    b. Serving UnAcc on a tour of duty in MOD London, or in a post designated as UnAcc within Permanent Joint Headquarters (PJHQ) Northwood, classified as INVOLSEP. These Service personnel will, however, be eligible if, during their assignment, they go on temporary duty away from MOD London or PJHQ and meet all other LSA entitlement criteria. Those serving UnAcc on a tour of duty in MOD London or in a post designated as UnAcc within PJHQ Northwood, whose immediate family reside in an overseas theatre, will receive LSA Level 1 for VOLSEP if they meet the eligibility criteria (see paragraph 05.0117).

    c. Assigned on temporary duty to participate in sponsored or organised recreational activities, sport, expedition or adventurous training. However, those personnel assigned to posts that involve instructing as part of their primary duties (eg PTIs) may claim LSA, subject to them meeting the QS criteria.

    d. On VOLSEP the Service person and spouse/civil partner are in adjoining Theatres and the family home is within 50 miles of the permanent duty station.

    e. The Service person occupies the family home at the permanent duty station and the spouse/civil partner and/or dependant children are absent from the family home.

    f. The Service person is in detention, imprisoned, absent without leave or temporarily reassigned for administrative reasons. If, however, a Service person or their spouse/civil partner is held in custody pending investigation or disposal of a charge, the Service person remains entitled to receive LSA provided all other criteria continue to be met.

    g. They are Volunteer Reserves undertaking periods of training under the terms of Sections 22 or 27 of RFA 96.

    h. They are Medical, Dental or University cadets, Defence Bursars and Foundation Year 1&2 Doctors.

    i. Army recruits under Phase 2 Training who, due to course structures, cannot be said to have a permanent Duty Station.

    INVOLUNTARY SEPARATION (INVOLSEP)

    05.0108. Eligibility. Service personnel involuntarily separated (irrespective of PStat Cat) will be eligible for payment of LSA. Payment of LSA will start from the first day of QS.

    05.0109. LSA Levels. Service personnel will be paid LSA Level 1 for their first 340 days of QS. Qualification for the next LSA levels will require further multiples of 240 days of QS, up to and including the highest level of LSA available.

    05.0110. Service Couples. Where partners of a Service marriage or civil partnership, including marriage to a member of the Civil Service, are not collocated and are required to serve on permanent assignments in different Theatres, the partner nominated as serving away from the family home (PStat Cat 5s/c) will be deemed to be INVOLSEP and therefore eligible to claim LSA at whatever level their personal accumulated QS dictates. The Service spouse/civil partner deemed to be occupying the family home will not be entitled to LSA for the period of separation. If both partners are absent for Service reasons from the family home then both are eligible for LSA, at whatever level their personal accumulated QS dictates, even if they are collocated or in the same Theatre.

    05.0111. Designated LSA Areas. Single personnel and those serving UnAcc who are assigned on a permanent basis (ie for more than 6 months) to one of the designated LSA areas detailed below, will be entitled to claim LSA from Day 1 of the permanent assignment.

    a. Ascension Island.

    b. Belize.

    c. Diego Garcia.

    d. The Falkland Islands.

    e. Assignments in certain other areas in support of UN or national operations (eligibility is to be confirmed by SP Pol P&M (Allces) on a case-by-case basis).

    05.0112. Cessation of Entitlement. Personnel in receipt of LSA on INVOLSEP service terms will cease to be entitled to the allowance from:

    a. The 1st day they cease to meet the eligibility criteria.

    b. The 1st day of any period taken as part of the Service person’s Individual Leave Allowance (ILA) including, the Annual Leave Allowance (ALA) (currently 30 days per year), seagoers’ leave, bank holidays and absence during normal stand down periods (eg weekends), during the period of separated service, where they are able to return to the duty station, family home or permanent residence.

    c. The 1st day away from an Operational area where there is an entitlement to the Deployment Welfare Package (Overseas) and any Rest and Recuperation (R&R) is spent at their permanent duty station, family home or permanent residence. If, however, the R&R is taken locally in the temporary assignment or overseas Theatre and they are not joined by their immediate family, entitlement to LSA will not be affected.

    d. The 1st day of any absence from the location for which LSA is being paid, in which case their circumstances and entitlement to LSA will be reassessed by the unit HR admin staff.

    e. The 1st day of any period that pay is not in issue and for periods for which pay is subsequently forfeited.

    f. The 1st day of terminal leave.

    g. The end of the last day of duty at the separated service location.

    h. The end of the last day of official duty at a temporary duty station which gave an entitlement to LSA, when the move to the next duty station is delayed for personal reasons.

    i. When assigned to a SLQU, LSA will cease on arrival in the Base Port, or other UK port when visiting for periods of 15 days or more. GYH Travel will normally be paid from the date of arrival in UK ports other than the Base Port. The last payment of LSA will be made on the day before arrival. LSA will re-start on the day the SLQU sails from the port.

    j. When a SLQU visits a port, other than its Base Port, and this is coincidentally where the Service person’s family home is located, LSA will cease on any day that the Service person goes home.

    ON THE ROAD (OTR) POSTS

    05.0113. General. An OTR post for LSA purposes is one which has an established and continuing requirement for frequent, regular and repeated absence in consecutive periods of at least 4 days (defined as 96 hours) but less than 7 days, totalling at least 55 days in a 6-month period. The list of current OTR posts, which is reviewed annually in June by the single-Services, is held by the JPAC. Applications for LSA OTR are to be submitted in accordance with Annex A to this Section.

    05.0114. Eligibility. Service personnel serving in an OTR post (irrespective of PStat Cat) will be eligible for payment of LSA for periods of separation from the permanent duty station at least 4 days (defined as 96 hours), but less than 7 days, totalling at least 55 days in a 6-month period. Payment for these periods will be at LSA Level 1 for the duration of the assignment, irrespective of any previously accumulated QS. OTR separation periods of between 4 and 7 days absence are not to be added to the LSA accumulated QS total.

    05.0115. Temporary Assignment Away from the OTR Post. Service personnel in OTR posts who are assigned on a temporary basis for more than 7 days on INVOLSEP terms (eg to an Out of Area detachment) will be eligible to claim LSA at the higher levels, dependent on the level of QS accumulated prior to the commencement of the OTR assignment. For example, a Service person who had previously qualified for LSA Level 3 would revert to Level 1 for any separation arising from the OTR duties. On temporary assignment to an INVOLSEP area, payment of LSA would revert to Level 3 and may reach higher levels dependent on the accumulation of further QS beyond the LSA threshold levels. The exception to this is admission to hospital, whereupon the Service person reverts to the relevant level of LSA from Day 1. On return to the OTR assignment, the LSA payments revert to Level 1.

    05.0116. Assigned to an OTR Post in the Same Theatre as their Spouse/Civil Partner. Service personnel assigned to an OTR post who decide to serve UnAcc in the same Theatre as their spouse/civil partner must elect, at the beginning of the OTR assignment, whether to claim LSA Level 1 for any periods of separation associated with the OTR post or GYH Travel for the duration of the assignment. Concurrent payment of LSA and GYH Travel is not permitted. Once the decision is made, it may only be changed if there is a significant change in circumstances (eg a change of PStat Cat). In such circumstances, unit HR admin staff should send a case to the SPVA Pay and Allowances Casework Cell (SPVA PACCC) for consideration.

    VOLUNTARY SEPARATION (VOLSEP)

    05.0117. Eligibility. Subject to the conditions in paragraph 05.0118 Service personnel (irrespective of PStat Cat) who undertake a permanent voluntarily UnAcc assignment in a different Theatre to the family home, will be eligible for LSA Level 1 from the 1st day of the assignment. LSA will be paid at Level 1 for the duration of the assignment, reflecting the voluntary nature of the UnAcc service. VOLSEP does not count towards the accumulation of separated service to progress through the LSA level thresholds.

    05.0118. Conditions for Payment of LSA Level 1 for VOLSEP Service. Service personnel claiming LSA Level 1 on the grounds of voluntary UnAcc service must be one of the following:

    a. Already married or in a civil partnership on assignment to a new permanent duty station in a different Theatre to their spouse/civil partner, who elect to serve UnAcc for the duration of the assignment.

    b. Marry or register a civil partnership during a permanent assignment and elect to serve UnAcc for the remaining duration of the assignment in a different Theatre from their spouse/civil partner.

    c. Have served accompanied (Acc) at the permanent duty station but elect, during a permanent assignment, to relocate their spouse/civil partner to a family home in a different Theatre for the remainder of that assignment.

    05.0119. VOLSEP When Occupying Private Accommodation. In order to be considered voluntarily separated, a Service person occupying private accommodation at the permanent duty station will be required to satisfy their CO that the private accommodation is not the family home and that their spouse/civil partner is maintaining a family home within a different Theatre to which the Service person will return on a regular basis.

    05.0120. Temporary Duty to the Same Theatre as the Family Home. If, during the UnAcc assignment for which LSA Level 1 is being paid, the Service person is sent on temporary duty to the same Theatre as the family home for a period of 10 consecutive days or more, entitlement to LSA Level 1 will cease from day one and entitlement to GYH Travel may commence, subject to the Service person meeting the criteria for GYH Travel (see Chapter 5 Section 2). Alternatively, there may be an entitlement to LSA, as described at paragraph 05.0121.

    05.0121. Travel to the Family Home Precluded During Temporary Duty. If during the temporary duty described at paragraph 05.0120, return to the family home is precluded due to the nature or location of the temporary assignment/duty (including admission to hospital), or if the temporary assignment/duty is to a different Theatre to the family home, GYH Travel is not payable and entitlement to LSA will continue. However, at this point, any previous accumulated QS would determine the Level of LSA payable. For example, a Service person who had previously accumulated sufficient QS to claim LSA Level 4 would be eligible for LSA Level 1 for the period of VOLSEP. If that Service person was then temporarily assigned or sent on temporary duty on further INVOLSEP, payment of LSA would be at Level 4 and could be increased if the thresholds for the next higher levels were crossed during that temporary assignment/duty. On return to the permanent duty station, payment of LSA would revert to Level 1. Any QS accumulated would count towards future LSA entitlement undertaken under INVOLSEP terms.


    05.0122. Cessation of LSA Level 1 for VOLSEP Service. Service personnel in receipt of LSA Level 1 during a voluntary UnAcc assignment will cease to be entitled in the following circumstances:

    a. Any visit by the spouse/civil partner to the Service person’s permanent duty station that exceeds 28 days in any 61 day period, in which case the Service person’s status as UnAcc is to be reassessed by the unit HR admin staff. At the first opportunity, Service personnel must notify their unit HR admin staff of any changes, whether temporary or permanent which could affect their entitlement to LSA. Such changes will include, but not be limited to, notification of the arrival and departure of the spouse, civil partner, child or immediate family at the assignment station. Failure to do so will result in the Service person becoming liable for the recovery of any overpayments of LSA.

    b. Any period of sick leave spent either at the family home or in the same Theatre as the family home (in the latter circumstances GYH Travel may be payable).

    c. Any period that pay is not in issue, including periods for which pay is subsequently forfeited.

    d. On the 1st day of annual leave taken during the period of VOLSEP, unless for Service reasons they are unable to return to their family home.

    e. Any period of INVOLSEP away from the permanent duty station in excess of 7 consecutive days or more (or, in the case of an in patient in line with sub paragraph 05.0103, from the 1st day), at which point entitlement to LSA will be re-evaluated to determine the appropriate level of payment (see paragraph 05.0121).

    f. On the 1st day of assignment to a new permanent duty station which does not entitle the claimant to LSA.

    CONDITIONS

    05.0123. Re-entering the Services After a Break not Exceeding 4 Years. Service personnel re-entering the Services after a break not exceeding 4 years may count former QS for the purpose of LSA eligibility. QS accrued under former separation terms (Longer Separated Service Allowance/ Longer Service at Sea Bonus (LSSA/LSSB)) may also be counted at the rate of one LSA day for each LSSA day and 219 days LSA for every 365 days LSSB. Any LSA earned by Reserve personnel whilst on regular engagements should count towards their entitlement as a Reserve Service person and vice versa, provided that there has not been a break in Service in excess of 4 years.

    05. 0124. Extended Tour Lengths. From 10 July 2008 personnel deployed on extended tours of 9 months or more became eligible for an uplift (or supplement) to their qualifying service. Relevant adjustments to accumulated LSA totals are made on reaching the following specified points:

    a. Nine Month Deployment. The provision of an additional 100 days qualifying separation to the Service person’s accumulated total on reaching the end of the 9 month period.

    b. Twelve Month Deployment. The provision of a further additional 100 days qualifying separation to the Service person’s accumulated total on reaching the end of the 12 month period.

    When a Service person completes a 9 Month Operational Tour, or reaches the 9 Month point of a 12 Month Operational Tour, or completes a 12 Month Operational tour, form JPA F005 is to be raised by Unit HR. Completed forms are to be forwarded to the JPAC staff who will apply the required adjustment to accumulated LSA totals.


    05.0125. Commissioning from the Ranks. All QS earned whilst serving in the ranks will be carried forward on commissioning.


    05.0126. Effect on Other Allowances. Annex A to Section 4 of Chapter 5 details the entitlement of seagoing personnel to LSA, GYH Travel, GYH (S)/GYH(S) Additional Journeys, GYH(Islands) and Unpleasant Living Allowance (ULA).

    RATES

    05.0127. Rates of LSA. The Secretary of State for Defence confirms the rates of LSA. The SofS bases those rates on recommendations made by the Armed Forces Pay Review Body (AFPRB). The AFPRB make their recommendations on evidence gathered (eg from MOD Papers of Evidence, visits to military establishments, other specially commissioned studies). The rates are published in the annual MOD SP Pol P&M (Allces) Directed Letter “Rates of Entitlement for Allowances for Service Personnel”. The current rates of LSA are also at Chapter 1 Section 6.

    METHOD OF CLAIM

    05.0128. Method of Claim. Entitlements for LSA will be processed by the unit HR admin staff using the JPA ‘Arrivals Process’.

    METHOD OF PAYMENT

    05.0129. Method of Payment. Payment will be at the appropriate daily rate of LSA, monthly in arrears, via the Service person’s salary.

    Annex:

    A. Application for LSA OTR.


    APPLICATION FOR LONGER SEPARATION ALLOWANCE ON THE ROAD
    (LSA OTR)

    GENERAL GUIDANCE

    1. A Service person who occupies an established post which has a continuing requirement for frequent, regular and repeated absence may be entitled to receive LSA OTR in accordance with paragraphs 05.0113 to 05.0116. In an effort to provide efficient administration for new OTR posts, and the review of existing posts, the following procedure is to be adopted:

    a. At Appendix 1 is a proforma, which is to be used by unit HR admin staff when assessing a Service person’s initial and continuing entitlement to LSA OTR. The aim of this proforma is to ensure that all periods being used in assessing the eligibility for the payment of LSA OTR, are valid and relevant.

    b. In assessing this eligibility, unit HR admin staff must count only full 24 hour periods of separation in excess of 4 days but less than 7 days spent away from the station, without the ability to return (eg 1000 hours 25 Jan 05 to 1200 hours 29 Jan 05 should not be interpreted as being eligible for a payment of 5 days LSA OTR, as it only equates to 98 hours and therefore may only be counted as 4 days).

    c. Absence should be forecast 6 months in advance and applications for OTR status approval should be submitted in advance. The Service person must complete a minimum of 55 days absence on duty in each successive 6-month period throughout their tour of duty. Retrospective applications for OTR status may be submitted for consideration to SPVA PACCC.

    d. LSA periods where absence from the permanent duty station is for 7 days or more bring entitlement to LSA in its own right and cannot therefore be counted towards LSA OTR (see paragraph 05.0115).

    e. A copy of the relevant Job Description should be included with each application, detailing the requirement for regular travel away from the duty station in order to perform the duty, thereby supporting the OTR application. The Establishment number and the Service person’s Line Serial Number (LSN) on that establishment are to be included.

    2. Submissions are to be made to the SPVA PACCC.
     
  3. If you can get home at the weekends you won't get LSA (para 5.0103e above).
     
  4. Bet you're sorry you asked now Keeper!
     
  5. You won't be exempt food charges either.
     
  6. But will still get GYH(M) and IE
     
  7. Mess bills may not be claimed back, however you can show a receipted Mess Bill to your own Mess treasurer and get a reduction in your own home Mess fees.
     
  8. thanks for the reply, was just looking for which chapter to read, but saved me sometime there.

    as usual my luck is right out on getting money, but at least I know the in's and out's now.

    will be claiming the food money back as it is pay as you strave.

    Will speak with my treasurer when I get back and see if I can get the few quid reduction as well, bloody hope so as my cleark has messed my wages up 2 months on a trot, but thats another problem

    once again thanks for shedding light on my problem
     

  9. there is no entitlement to claim food back, you eat it you pay for it, unless of course you are paying the daily food charge, which you state you are not.
     
  10. Im on course in the UK and paying for my food, however the RAF boys on it are claiming their food back, they can self certify upto a £5 a day. Ones single and pays for food in the block and is also claiming back that money, the others married and claiming for all his meals.
    Is this the RAF way or is their clerk wrong in paying them?
    They cant believe im paying and not claiming but im pretty sure i cant claim.
    Are they wrong in claiming?
     
  11. The £5 per day is for Incidental Expenses (Newspaper, Laundry, Phone Calls) it is nothing to do with claiming back food. Free feeding on courses for Married personnel in Jul 2007.

    You may be able to claim back the cost of a PAYD Core meal if you are currently paying the Daily Food Charge, but you are not so you can't.

    All you should be able to claim is, some form of Seperation Allowance (LSA or GYH), IE for 30 days Max and possible MMA and Subsistence for your duty journey at the start and end of the course.
     
  12. Question: if you are claiming GYH(M) does this disqualify you from LSA as you are accepting that you are travelling to your home address on a regular (ie at weekends) basis?

    Mess bills - you should always book out of your own mess prior to a course to reduce/remove your costs, so that you are only a member of one mess at a time, regardless of how temporary this membership is.

    cH
     
  13. You lot want the moon on a stick. Is a fiver a day going to make your life better? Are you all that poor?

    (I know I am usually quite helpful but this is just sillyness).
     
  14. INELIGIBILITY

    05.0107. Ineligible Service Personnel. Service personnel will be ineligible to receive LSA when:

    a. In receipt of Get You Home (GYH) Travel allowance for the same period of separation. However, entitlement to GYH (Early Years) (GYH(EY)) and the accumulation of GYH (Seagoers) (GYH(S))/GYH(S) Additional Journeys is unaffected by payment of LSA. LSA ceases for the period a GYH(EY), GYH(S) or GYH(S) Additional Journey is undertaken.

    Copied from earlier in the thread - try reading it fella !!

    It's not a black art you know
     
  15. I can't read anything longer than a couple of sentences, but thanks for the extra post. Maybe I should have used Ctrl+F? Hmmm....lesson learned.