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Country going to the dogs: More evidence

#1
Is it any wonder that standards are slipping, with regulations such as the following coming into force?

School bans knotted ties.

I was particularly concerned by the following:

We also feel it is smarter because older children will not wear the ties in a casual way. This is in line with places like Marks and Spencer, the police and the armed forces.
I remember when it was a fineable offence to wear a clip on. Have standards really slipped so far in HM's Armed Forces (Crab Air of course excluded)?

PB

edited for spelling
 
#2
Clips on are fine but strap ons are probably frowned at.

Well at least in public they are.
 
#3
Mr_Deputy said:
We also feel it is smarter because older children will not wear the ties in a casual way.

Will not wear them in a casual way?
what the hell does that mean?

I think they wear them very short, and loosely knotted - as thats cool (according to my sons a few years ago)
 
#4
Sorry, not aware of any armed forces that wear clip on ties.

Although I have go elastic on mine, but I did that my self. Just prusic knot around the elastic= small knot, but tidy and easy to chuck on.
 
#5
The school kids used to wear ties with the smallest part of the tie (i.e. no kipper tie), ateast when I was at school they used to. lol

if you want PROOF that this country is going to the dogs, visit places like Lewisham and Downham LOL
 
#6
chocolate_frog said:
Sorry, not aware of any armed forces that wear clip on ties.
I believe that, due to certain (ahem) risks inherent in the profession some at MCTC wear / wore them, as did certain people in psychiatry.
 
#7
With great thought for our personal safety in MCTC we had our ties with us. You wouldn't want to feel undressed going to church on Sundays now would you?

I was also particulary impressed when we received our bayonets on day two or thereabouts. Still, no nasty ties or dangerous knots to worry about then.
 
#8
Mr_Deputy said:
RABC said:
Mr_Deputy said:
We also feel it is smarter because older children will not wear the ties in a casual way.

Will not wear them in a casual way?
what the hell does that mean?

I think they wear them very short, and loosely knotted - as thats cool (according to my sons a few years ago)
yes sure but then surely that IS casual and not formal which would be 'by the book' with a Windsor knot etc.
Anyway....
You've misread it although I can see why.

"We also feel it is smarter because older children will not wear the ties in a casual way."
It means they can't wear a clip on tie in a casual way.
 
#9
chocolate_frog said:
Sorry, not aware of any armed forces that wear clip on ties.
They are authorised over here, but in fairness, I know few people who wear them.

NTM
 

Biped

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#10
The country is not going to the dogs because of school ties. I actually think it is a very good move, even if only on health and safety grounds.

I got into a fight once at school against a much bugger kid, but managed to beat the hell out of him and give him whiplash because I was swinging him around by his tie. If he'd had a snap on, he probably would have beaten me to a pulp.

Another thing that should be banned in schools is fists, boots, rulers, Bic pens, paper and ethnicboard rubbers (can I say rubber?)
 
#12
milsum said:
A tie isn't a safety risk. A kid with a knife in his pocket at school is.
well I had a pocket knife at school from the age of 11 until I left and I wasn't a safety risk to anyone or anything. I sharpened pencils, cut paper and mended glasses frames with it more than anything. A school culture where children are given no responsibility and allowed to do as they please without fear of censure is a greater risk.

A tie is a safety risk anywhere near machinery or in a science lab.
 
#13
[quote="EX_STAB]A tie is a safety risk anywhere near machinery or in a science lab.[/quote]

Or when hanging from a convenient beam.
 
#14
milsum said:
A tie isn't a safety risk. A kid with a knife in his pocket at school is.
Utter bóllócks! Ask any past or serving copper why their uniform tie is/was a clip on.

The answer is obvious.
 
#15
Biped said:
The country is not going to the dogs because of school ties. I actually think it is a very good move, even if only on health and safety grounds.

I got into a fight once at school against a much bugger kid, but managed to beat the hell out of him and give him whiplash because I was swinging him around by his tie. If he'd had a snap on, he probably would have beaten me to a pulp.

Another thing that should be banned in schools is fists, boots, rulers, Bic pens, paper and ethnicboard rubbers (can I say rubber?)
Can i add desks, chairs, Teachers, books and kids to that list please?
 

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