Rather than the current bunfight over what should have and shouldn't have been done, let's concentrate on the way forward. First let's try and agree on what we think the mission and the endstate should be, and then lets put our collective experience and sensibilities together to come up with a plan. I'm sick of back-stabbing and name-calling, and for those whose opinions I've disgreed with and been rude to I'm sorry. Most of us are, to a degree, angry for one reason or another on what has been going on, and may be disturbed by the apparent responses by our security services. Instead of arguing over what has happened, and what it means, lets try and argue a way forward. If the gossip is true that the media frequent this site, we may even get lucky and be able to inform the media opinion. So, first off, we need, (a) a mission, (b) an endstate, and then (c) a plan.