Counter IED Asst Instructors Course

#1
Good evening all,

I am attending the above course soon and initial documentation is vague as to content. Is it similar to the search team course of old? I appreciate that is focuses on current operations- but a more detailed synopsis from someone who has done the course would be appreciated.

If any info that is out there is sensitive in any manner a pm to me is an alternative.

Though this is my first post I am one of those "arrsers" who hover over all the forums frequently.

Thank you gents!!

DP
 
#3
Seconded as not a taxing course, we could have done it in three days as opposed to the five programmed for it.
As to contents, it gives you the background knowledge to allow you to teach it, some search lessons were included but again as background information.

BTW there is a really interesting DVD to look forward to.......bring RedBull!
 
#4
I dont think that link will work. If canyou access the Army knowledge Exchange (AKX) via DII(F)
do the following
1. click 'Afghan Hub' (top middle of screen
2. click 'C-IED' on the left
3. Click 'prepare the force'
4. Click 'MATT 9 C-IED'
5. Click 'AA C-IED ASST INSTR'

Hey presto all lessons and power points are there
 
#6
Most units will have been issued a qty of vallons, mine training kit, extraction kits and dummy IED's/Mines/UXO etc etc for use with MATT 9 and most garrisons now have dummy IED lanes filled with lovely mucky sand for students to crawl through on there belt buckles doing some lovely mine prodding.
 
#8
Is there a full instructor and what is the difference between the two? or is it on the t'intraweb?
 
#9
AIUI the Instructors course allows you to 'create' assistant instructors and it also involves mine awareness training.
 
#12
Most units will have been issued a qty of vallons, mine training kit, extraction kits and dummy IED's/Mines/UXO etc etc for use with MATT 9 and most garrisons now have dummy IED lanes filled with lovely mucky sand for students to crawl through on there belt buckles doing some lovely mine prodding.
It's good to see that attention to the IED threat is being appreciated. I completed my High Threat IEDD course in Dec 08. No vallons, a little bit of sand and devices knocked up by the duty terrorist.

The training was of the highest standard and remains so due to the instructors all the way up to the SI (himself an amputee) and prepared me fully. However there was clearly not enough money being put into the place, so whoever reading this:

GIVE THE FELIX CENTRE MORE MONEY YOU cnuts.

Sometimes I just get tired of being diplomatic and tactful.
 
#14
Why would you be doing mine prodding on a C-IED course.

Is it taught be the RE? If so, well done you are being taught be people who are not the authority on such. Even if it is just the search element (for which RE are the lead) then you're probably being taught by WOs and Staffys with little or no experience of working in Afghanistan, better to be taught by the searchers who have completed a tour and actually found devices.
 
#15
I say mine prodding, but it was only used as part of the mine extraction drill along with the PMEK and only used to extract yourself as as last resort. My instructor was RAC and had come from RE depot with the correct quals to teach us. Seriously though if the RE or EOD guys are not happy with what is being taught on this they should be speaking to higher.
 
#16
I have told people, the current IED search technique is based on AP mines. It is flawed. There is great arrogance at the top of the RE (though there are some great fellas serving within), they will not listen to other cap badges, even one that has collectively searched and cleared 1000s of IEDs of different types in different scenarios. And trust me, it's one thing uncovering the corner or edge of an IED and another entirely rendering it safe.
 
#17
They did place a big emphasis on not over confirming anything that was discovered i.e if a wire was sticking out a little, then mark and report up the chain and leave well alone. I think the main aim is to keep the IED threat in peoples head at all times not just when preparing for ops.
 

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