Council Enforcement Officers - Are they trained by the Gestapo?

#81
Wonderful item in my local rag.

OAP bought a pork pie from a Manchester branch of M&S, left the supermarket, unwrapped said pie, placed wrapper in pocket. Crumbs of pie fell to ground.

"Enforcement Officers" filmed the dropping of the pie crumbs then issued said OAP with a £50 fixed penalty notice.

OAP protested to Council who then dropped the case.

I mean, really.
 
#82
Wonderful item in my local rag.

OAP bought a pork pie from a Manchester branch of M&S, left the supermarket, unwrapped said pie, placed wrapper in pocket. Crumbs of pie fell to ground.

"Enforcement Officers" filmed the dropping of the pie crumbs then issued said OAP with a £50 fixed penalty notice.

OAP protested to Council who then dropped the case.

I mean, really.
Wednesbury Reasonableness applies I suspect - a decision so unreasonable that a reasonable person, acting reasonably, could never come to that conclusion.
 
#83
A while ago I was cycling on the pavement and two plastic plods/ PCSO,s asked me to stop.
"Can I just stop you for a moment?"
I replied NO.
They repeated the question and I told them to F*ck off.
A couple of days later I was on foot in the same place and the same plastic plods were kitted out with brand new mountain bikes and all of the protective gear.
A track suit wearing mong cycling on the pavement shouted at me to get out of his way. I shouted back that he could fuck off and laughed as he nearly collided with a bus stop shelter. I noted that he was very gobby but only shouted abuse as he pedalled away quickly.

Cyclists on the pavement? Stupid cnuts - the lot of them...

Unless of course they are kids on kiddy bikes etc.

Which one are you then?
 
#84
I believe that there is also a need to prove intent to show an offence has been committed, not sure how that would apply to an interface with a rubbish Nazi but if they have a body cam on it might be worth saying something on the lines of 'really i dropped something that wasn't intentional thank you i will go back and pick it up' may cause problems for them evidentiary speaking


but I'll wait for someone else to try that first and see how they get on
 
#85
Wonderful item in my local rag.

OAP bought a pork pie from a Manchester branch of M&S, left the supermarket, unwrapped said pie, placed wrapper in pocket. Crumbs of pie fell to ground.

"Enforcement Officers" filmed the dropping of the pie crumbs then issued said OAP with a £50 fixed penalty notice.

OAP protested to Council who then dropped the case.

I mean, really.
Or, to put it another way...
Official carries out his instructions without bias, the crumbs fall within the definition of litter that was given by a previous poster, official doesn't assume authority that he doesn't have, OAP follows appeals procedure, council upholds appeal, fine is rescinded.

What is the point of the news story? To show that a procedure is working perfectly? Or that the editor has a political agenda and puts a different slant on it for his own aims?

The power of the media - "Gairmany calling, Gairmany calling...". Now who is the little Hitler?
 
#87
Ok. My two pence worth. I've spun this dit about my seriously kinetic frontline military service before, but when I was in the ATC, I got dicked for car park duty rather a lot. This involved telling people where to park in a field at airshows/country fayres etc.

As the Arrse intelligentsia can appreciate, if you want to park X amounts of cars in a field, it helps to fill it up from the bottom.

Try explaining that to these mongs, who, to a man, insisted on parking "near the entrance" so no other fücker could get in.

People were also wanting to park in the shade so they could leave their dog in a hot car whilst the shade moved.

The fact that we were in ATC uniform brought all types of scorn upon us, even though we were merely being helpful, and weren't using it to infer any kind of authority (!).

Watching the end of the show become gridlocked to road-rage as they all refused to follow well-intentioned traffic direction was a thing of great hilarity.

The RSPCA also broke into a few cars to rescue distressed dogs at our behest, which made up for the abuse we'd been subjected to for our helpfulness.

So sorry, @dingerr You weren't there man, you just weren't there.

(Stares off into middle distance)
 
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#88
A track suit wearing mong cycling on the pavement shouted at me to get out of his way. I shouted back that he could **** off and laughed as he nearly collided with a bus stop shelter. I noted that he was very gobby but only shouted abuse as he pedalled away quickly.

Cyclists on the pavement? Stupid cnuts - the lot of them...

Unless of course they are kids on kiddy bikes etc.

Which one are you then?
OK.Hands up, I do ride on the pavement where possible and it is safe for me and other pavement users. If plod decides to nick me for doing so I will simply shrug and pay the fine. I`d rather be in a Magistrates Court than a Hospital Ward.
 
#89
I also ride on the pavement, until some cunt parks a car on it and I have to go on the road.
 

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#90
I also ride on the pavement, until some **** parks a car on it and I have to go on the road.
Yeah, I`ve got a particular hatred for twats that stick their cars on pavements. Any "damage" they receive is definitely deserved. Not that I would engage in such an educational activity. Oh deary me no.
 
#91
Yeah, I`ve got a particular hatred for twats that stick their cars on pavements. Any "damage" they receive is definitely deserved. Not that I would engage in such an educational activity. Oh deary me no.
I park on the "pavement" outside my house.


However , that particular piece of pavement is 32 feet wide. So ample room for my iccle Nissan.
 
#92
A while ago I was cycling on the pavement and two plastic plods/ PCSO,s asked me to stop.
"Can I just stop you for a moment?"
I replied NO.
They repeated the question and I told them to F*ck off.
A couple of days later I was on foot in the same place and the same plastic plods were kitted out with brand new mountain bikes and all of the protective gear.
Same thing happened to me about 5 years ago, I had to cross the pavement on my bike at a junction, got stopped by two PCSO,'s who wanted £80 off me, I explained to them that I was on a MTB and they were obese, and they were welcome to chase me for it.
 
#93
Britain has become a place where a village idiot can be transformed into Judge Dredd just by the addition of a dayglo waistcoat or a clerical job in local government or a worthless government department. One of a miriad of reasons why I left.
I would counter that the UK has become socially and morally bankrupt between the church and the state there was a balance of control that lead to a certain behaviour, a moral compass. Educational establishments produced workers of every social strata (the class system) whilst the church it's presence evident in society even for the non attendees was given respect and the criminal justice system removed those that strayed off this path. The left has pulled away the veil of moral and social indignation and anti social behaviour became acceptable in mainstream culture. The reaction from the establishment/government is as always the stick not the carrot so new laws and enforcement not education and reward, look around you in the UK you have the highest percentage of CCTV per head of population, speed cameras everywhere and enforcement officers to guide you in your daily life, because you are now a mob of unruly cnuts.
 
#95
I would counter that the UK has become socially and morally bankrupt between the church and the state there was a balance of control that lead to a certain behaviour, a moral compass. Educational establishments produced workers of every social strata (the class system) whilst the church it's presence evident in society even for the non attendees was given respect and the criminal justice system removed those that strayed off this path. The left has pulled away the veil of moral and social indignation and anti social behaviour became acceptable in mainstream culture. The reaction from the establishment/government is as always the stick not the carrot so new laws and enforcement not education and reward, look around you in the UK you have the highest percentage of CCTV per head of population, speed cameras everywhere and enforcement officers to guide you in your daily life, because you are now a mob of unruly cnuts.
You know what, you ain't far wrong with that statement.
 
#96
A track suit wearing mong cycling on the pavement shouted at me to get out of his way. I shouted back that he could **** off and laughed as he nearly collided with a bus stop shelter. I noted that he was very gobby but only shouted abuse as he pedalled away quickly.

Cyclists on the pavement? Stupid cnuts - the lot of them...

Unless of course they are kids on kiddy bikes etc.

Which one are you then?
The one with the pink stabilisers fitted? :mrgreen:
 
#97
A 10 stone Bull Mastiff is an excellent deterrent when these council Hitlers are about. They tend not to bother you with a land based shark at your side.
 
#98
Wonderful item in my local rag.

OAP bought a pork pie from a Manchester branch of M&S, left the supermarket, unwrapped said pie, placed wrapper in pocket. Crumbs of pie fell to ground.

"Enforcement Officers" filmed the dropping of the pie crumbs then issued said OAP with a £50 fixed penalty notice.

OAP protested to Council who then dropped the case.

I mean, really.
Was the enforcement pillock employee Jewish? If so, fair enough, we don't want bolshie OAP's spreading racial hatred, fear and alarm willie nillie, do we?
 
#99
Apparently as part of his defence the Pie Crust Littering OAP very kindly made the observation that a few yards from him were a group of people who were deliberately feeding pigeons by throwing bread/pastry on the pavement - none of these apparently were filmed and issued with a penalty notice.

He was so alarmed and distressed by his treatment that he's seeking 'compo.
 
Are you talking about private land owned by travellers that they wouldn’t have any legal
right to enter without a warrant?
Let's face it, they tend not to worry about their legal right to enter other people's property so fair's fair.
 

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