Coulson, Brooks et al charged over hacking

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  1. Still serves them right the trial might throw up a bit more than the current white wash.
  2. Charge sheet is quite lengthy. Hopefully it'll be a long time in the slammer.
  3. Mr_Fingerz

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  4. Mr_Fingerz

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  5. Fingers crossed they start naming names to reduce their sentences.
  6. Innocent till proven guilty.

    I can't ask for anything else, otherwise it is a reverse of the Tomlinson trial. We don't like them, but due process and a fair trial.

    More than the people on the end of abuse of power ever get, whether it be by the state or newspapers.

    But Holy Mary Mother of God, these trials are going to be interesting. We aren't going to look pretty as a nation, bit cleaner by the end though.
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  7. Frankly this was what was really needed from the start. Police to investigate alleged wrong-doing by the press and those they deal with and where appropriate initiate charges.

    Can we now dispense with the farce of a judicial enquiry?
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  8. Mr_Fingerz

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    You are of course right about them being innocent until proven guilty.

    Getting a jury of their peers together, who haven't heard any of the Leveson evidence will be difficult; but I am sure that it could be done.

    All we need now is a date for the trial and for the Mods to declare the subject matter to be under purdah and all comment will cease on the site.

    And I fully expect that once the guilty verdicts are in that we'll all go back to normal jogging.
  9. Mr_Fingerz

    Mr_Fingerz LE Book Reviewer

    You might have found Leveson to be a farce, I have found it to be quite enlightening. The enquiry is in it's final stages now and will be over by the end of the month IIRC.

    Mr Justice Leveson will, I am sure, arrange for his decisions/recommendations to be made known after the Hacking Trials (for want of a phrase) are over.
  10. Leveson finishes tomorrow apparently?

    He wants to report by the autumn. None of his inquiry to date relates to the criminal activity so presumably the report will not scupper the prosecutions.

    Things were going well until they called up Blair and didn't lay a finger on him. Why bother with the whole thing if you're not going to really grill the big hitters?
  11. So the opening sentence from the judge will be along the lines of;

    'Wheel the guilty bastards in.'

    After all the time and effort spent on a tawdry affair that seems only to have impinged on the glitterati and the Westminster village, they could hardly have said,

    'So long, no case to answer, and thanks for all the fish.'

    Does anyone with a real life really care?
  12. Was about to suggest the same, especially when detail about the judges sexual misdemeanors hit the front page.
  13. Mr_Fingerz

    Mr_Fingerz LE Book Reviewer

    The enquiry was into Press Standards and Ethics. IIRC Blair isn't a newspaper owner - he "merely" tried to manipulate the press to "get his message out there".

    He wasn't being grilled in the same manner as Brooks Murcdoch et al so that's the reason why they never laid a finger on him.
  14. How has Leveson been enlightening?

    We have learned that journalists have highly selective memories
    They could remember any great detail which painted them in a positive light
    Their memories let them down over any failings
    We learned that they all know of other journalists who have used illegal means of gathering information
    All claim they wouldn't do any such thing.
    We learned that Newspaper proprietors have their own agendas
    We learned they will support anyone who supports their agenda
    We learned that Newspaper proprietors lavish extravagant gifts on politicians
    We learned that neither parties consider that to be corrupt or likely to earn influence
    We learned that eminent QCs can string out questioning long enough to maximise earnings
    We learned that all politicians of whichever party behave in the same way when being schmoozed by rich people.

    Will we get a better press as a result? - no. Because we get the press we want to pay for (or deserve)