Could the prison system become profitable?

#1
Having a chat with a mate over a beer about the prison system. Neither of us have any real experience of it (Apart from 30 mins in Browning Barracks for "Not lifting your arms" when marching :roll: )

We were thinking about privatisation.
Could it work?
Could each prisoner become financially viable?
Could short term prisoners work 8 hours a day in prison factories making the stuff we import from China?
Could long term prisoners be trained and sold on at a profit?
Could the cleverer ones form an 'Information Hub' providing advice to companies cheaply?
Could call centres, computer graphic content, data imput, even many blue collar jobs be outsourced to a cheap labour pool?
Would the prisoners rise to the challenge (With incentives), or rebel?

We are not talking concentration camps here, but training, help and future prospects. There are many problems and issues, but could it work? and if so, how?
 
#2
I like the concentration camp idea.


Road crews and litter collecters on the motorways. Unpaid, in the stinking heat (not that you lot actually get heat over there. Stinking rain then) and forced to work 12 hour days by angry wardens.


That way the useless pricks can actually contribute to society.
 
#3
Course it could.

Bill the inmates Food and accomdoation, the richer can buy nicer sellls. We didn´t ask them to commit crime did we?

Bump up the prices on toiletrys etc inide.

Make the convicts work for us.

1. Sifting through garbage for recyclables.
2. Use the prisons as farms. Obviously farm machinera is convict powered.
3. hand cranks for electricity, that i nturn produces hydrogen and oxygen (through the correct system) for hydrogen cells.
4. Packing junk mail in to envelopes for junk mail companies.
5. chanin gangs.


oh the list is endless.

Work them, work some sense in to them.
 
#6
Howler said:
Would the prisoners rise to the challenge (With incentives), or rebel?
Prisoners don't rise to challenges I'm afraid, despite any incentive you might offer. What they actually do is kick back and resist any instruction given, even if it's for their benefit and they do it just for the sake of being awkward because they don't have the mind set of normal people. Prisons do run purposeful work activities, for instance (depending on what part of the country you're based) you may find the signs around camp were made in a prison workshop as the MOD has that contract at the moment. Not that it does any good since most of the the creatures that make them never learn anyway.
 
#7
We must follow the lead of China. Forget call centres. Harvest their organs. Have you any idea what a kidney is worth? I'll tell you. It's worth about half as much as two kidneys.
 
#8
Hire out training areas and have a chav hunt to the highest bidders, they can drive around chasing chavs and shoot them when caught.
 

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#9
It's all about 'umin rights innit! The right to work or employment. Just because we 'ave seen fit to remove their right to free movement, doesn't mean we 'ave to go all the way. I say LET them work, LET them get paid even - and then LET them pay for their accomodation and food - after all, Soldiers have similar restrictions on when and where they can go, and they work long hours, and they 'ave to pay for their food and lodgings - not to mention council tax for when they is in the sunshine abroad!

Give prisoners the same rights I say!
 
#10
Could we just convert some of the coal fired power stations to take humans (well I think used to be)? I heard that we burn quite well once we get going even though we are 80% water.
 
#11
All_I_Want said:
Could we just convert some of the coal fired power stations to take humans (well I think used to be)? I heard that we burn quite well once we get going even though we are 80% water.
Incorporate (see what I did there?) a preparation chamber and have the corpses suspended in the waste heat to pre-dessicate them, then a conveyor belt transfers them to the furnace.

Just the thing to revitalise British engineering.
 
#13
Ancient_Mariner said:
We must follow the lead of China. Forget call centres. Harvest their organs. Have you any idea what a kidney is worth? I'll tell you. It's worth about half as much as two kidneys.
Isn't this the same country that shoots political prisoners,then sends the family the bill for the round!
 
#14
how about packing mail into junk mail envelopes FOR junk mail companies??
 
#15
vvaannmmaann said:
Ancient_Mariner said:
We must follow the lead of China. Forget call centres. Harvest their organs. Have you any idea what a kidney is worth? I'll tell you. It's worth about half as much as two kidneys.
Isn't this the same country that shoots political prisoners,then sends the family the bill for the round!
The self-same. Fcukers.
 
#16
In all seriousness, turning them into a source of labour that could then be used by government bodies (i.e., road sweeping, tree clearing, agricultural works) would be a useful way in which they could pay their debt to society from the perspective of actual "work". If they dig their heels in and behave like petulant pugnacious pr!cks then give them the good news associated with a proper kicking.
 
#17
All the time they are banging on about making the public sector pay for itself, the NHS becoming a commissioning agency for private sector companies just one example and motorists paying for the use of motorways 8O ...............why has not some fwit consultant earned his BMW M3 coming up with the ideas posted here :roll:

Junk mail, recycling and clearing rubbish are good points :thumright:

Problem at the moment is, with the state of some estates, chokey is seen as a paid holiday, unlimited drugs and J Kyle TV :pissedoff:

Make the feckers work!!!!! :shakefist:
 
#18
Fiji_Bob said:
..... recycling and clearing rubbish are good points :thumright:

....Problem at the moment is....
Unemployment is rising and it will rise even more if they take jobs other normal people could do.
 
#19
Some good points, however please do remember that some people in prison are there unjustly, you know like that granny that was done over for poll tax all those years ago, and lets face it one of our own fellows after a recently well exposed act of police brutality. The justice system is a bit of an arrse, I myself have fallen foul a few times but have being treat very lightly.
I am someone who is very keen on "do the crime,do the time".
It is kind of annoying where you may be held in custody for upto 24 hours with an unsanitary toilet, pine pillow and lovely MDF bed. Whereas Our friends Huntley,Sutcliffe etc have nice en suite's ,quilts, sky TV etc etc. It does take the pi55 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for community service which I myself have served 180 hours, I think the system of the bright overalls is good, but to stamp on the back the offence like the guy did in the states is awesome. Yes it may not work for a few,but if you had "Child Molester, Rapist, Drink drive killer, Drug Dealer" on your back you may think twice about doing anything , I am sure the human rights commision would have a ball but I reckon it would definately act as an awesome deterrent .
 
#20
Taking things a little further...
Training for the long term unemployed (Unemployable) with loss of priviledges for non-compliants. For example a room with a TV, computer and WII (Pronounced 'Wee') downgraded to shared basic rooms with access only to a 1960s Blue Peter annual.
Your sentence starts from the day you start producing money for the state, so another incentive to start working.

More production equals earlier parole.
On release, employment in the sector you've trained in or completion of rest of sentence and a % of future earnings to pay back the state, a little like a student loan.
Paid, but not in money, but vouchers that will go towards a car, house, further training etc.

Access to more and more facilities the longer you work eg pool room, weights, snack bar etc.

Non-compliants separated from productives and secured with living basics only and no drugs, TV etc.
 

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