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Could the MoD save some money useing LINUX

#1
In the current climate, would it be more cost effective for the MoD to stop paying the hundreds of thousands of pounds for the MS licences and go Linux?
Linux is more secure than windows. more stable, and is free!

Thoughts................ anyone
 

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#2
far too many vested interests in keeping the MS gravy train running, I would think. from the billions paid to resellers and god alone knows how much to 'consultants'... jealous, moi?? :p
 
#3
you'd need to employ tech wallahs to keep it secure and up and running. Youd also need to teach every man and his dog how to use something thats not excel .
 
#5
Didn't a MS virus knock out all of France's carrier operations for a day or so?
The Chinese partly use Linux because they can control the source. The c code can be inspected and changed before compilation.
One of the other reasons was the banning of certain technologies during the 90s, we weren't allowed to sell them Sun computers back then.
There are still considerable license fees to pay for Red Hat support which doesn't make a commercial Linux much cheaper especially if you are also paying VmWare for an ESX license for virtualized systems.
 
#7
Civi_Git said:
You'd also need to teach every man and his dog how to use something that's not excel .
Actually it's possible to deploy OpenOffice (a real version, not the cr*p in the green boxes) now on MS platforms as well as Linux and MAC - and "look and feel" is about 99% similar to MS Office products. Just some of the commands are in different places.
 
#8
@sunami

"Linux is open source so there's no knowing what can be embedded."

The very opposite of the truth. Open source software can be inspected by anyone - it's the closed source (like Microsoft) stuff that could contain anything.
 
#9
spoiltb said:
Didn't a MS virus knock out all of France's carrier operations for a day or so?
Cornficker has only stopped some Navy pilots from downloading some mission preparation data. They changed to another software and the issue was solved.

A far cry from "knocking out all of France's carrier operations for a day or so".....
 
#12
Probably not, the "per desk" license cost when you're buying severy thousnad licenses is probably less (for some reason the volume license page isn't working atm) than the cost of retraining everyone in the difference between windows/office and linux/open office and the premium for support staff
 
#13
RobinHood said:
In the current climate, would it be more cost effective for the MoD to stop paying the hundreds of thousands of pounds for the MS licences and go Linux?
Linux is more secure than windows. more stable, and is free!

Thoughts................ anyone
What calibre is it
 
#14
I have yet to use any Linux distro that is any good on x86/x64 hardware.

If the disparate current situation evolves into a situation where there is a clear leader, then M$ may have a fight on their hands.
 
#15
Why not?
Written in Firefox 3.6 running on OpenSuse 11.2.

I have friends here for whom I have built OpenSuse boxes. They are happy and have saved money too. What a winner.

No M$ on my machine at home here - and I'm an MCSE X 2 to boot.
 
#17
Actually, not a lot of training would be needed outside of the server side if they left MS. Apple built MacOS X on BSD Unix and you don't have to have any systems administrator training for that.
It should be easy for the MOD to write/have written customised desktop that would support the OpenOffice tools that are required. The harder parts would be getting VPNs and things to work for people that need to work remotely.
 
#18
Ancient_Mariner said:
I think the American forces saved a load of money by moving to Linux for their servers, but not for their desktops.
You might well find that our servers are running Linux. It appears to be a standard thing in most large institutions now.
 
#20
In answer to the original question, I for one am very glad that they went for Windows for the following reason.

Firstly please take this is the manner it is intended, Linux is used almost exclusively by the computer savvy (the computer geeks if you will). Certainly from my own experience, as a self confessed computer biff, on the one occasion I have tried to use a computer running Linux, I found it next to impossible to make it do anything that I wanted it to do, as it was not particularly user friendly and although it looked a bit like Windows nothing seemed to work in the same way.

I have no doubt that if you use Linux from the get go or like to spend hours in a darkened room fondling a computer, then Linux is your dream come true. I would suggest that only a very small minority of soldiers fall into this catagory. From a personal perspective, I have enough difficulty learning COMBAT, PBISA and Open Office. I don't have the time or the brain power to learn how to use a different operating system at the same time.

Out of curriosity, other than being apparently free, what is it that Linux is supposed to do that Windows doesn't? I assume that it being "open source" (if that is the right term) allows one to re-programme it or something. On the basis that I am never going to "re-programme" a computer, I don't know what it would offer me as a user. (I ask as I was recently told that I really ought to run Linux on my computer because it was, quote "much better").
 

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