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Could do with some advice....

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I am nearing the interview stage on my application process and I have made my three choices, I would some inside knowledge on these so I basically know If they are for me :-
1) Army Air Corps Soldier.
2) Military Engineer Command, Communications and Information system specialist.
3) Gunner Artillery Command Systems.
:?
Any advice would be very helpfull,
Thanks!
 
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asking people on here dosent answer his own question does it on if its right for him or not, it would purely be peoples own opinions
 
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You know what really sucks about this site is that when someone askes a question, numb nuts feel they have to rip them apart before answering the Fu**ing question.

God damn it!!!

if you havnt got a decent answer get bent.... many thanks.

Right down to business :) i was researching Military Engineer Command, Communications and Information system specialist not long ago and i rang my recruiter for advice he later called me back with this advice...

That job is kinda new its up and running about a year and there is alot of people in it that love doing it, however he said they created that job simply just to create a new job.

he was recently in england researching the engineers and the different trades and he said not alot of people had alot to say about the job.

he was talking to a guy in it that said he was on tour attached to the infantry and he had a great time with plenty of action and when he isnt doing that he is putting his combat engineer skills to good use etc or in HQ working with communications.

i was on an insight course myself talking to a man that was on the air corp and he couldnt tell me enough how great it was.

Gunner Artillery Command Systems this i have no clue about. hope this help a bit.
 
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I don't know too much about all your job choices, I'm starting phase one as an RE Equipment Mechanic in March. I chose it because of the versatility involved. Whereas in alot of jobs, you're a soldier first, then a tradesman. With the RE, your a soldier first, combat engineer second and a tradesmen first, so it seems to me like an open career with plenty of scope for progression in different areas.
 
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mattrlc said:
asking people on here dosent answer his own question does it on if its right for him or not, it would purely be peoples own opinions
He's not asking if its right for him or not, you dung trumpet. Read his post.


Bebop, what are your interests and what do you aspire to be?

AAC is a good solid choice but it's not always what the glossy brochures make out (as with most jobs in the Army). If you have an interest in the AAC, ask the question in the Aviation forum. There will be plenty of groundies in there who will be willing to answer your questions on the job.
 
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i waqs also told that there is not alot to be said for armoured engineer.. not a quote of mine but fat boys/ farmers in big tanks hiding under cover for long periods eating till someone calls them.

you have the titan and trojan which would be great to learn to work but i dont think you would be seeing much excitment in a trade like that.

Again if its engineers you are going for most of the time you will be doing combat engineer things im told.

Im going engineer driver after ruling out engineer communications but im told 2ill get to drive sometimes" most of my career might be combat engineer stuff which im happy about. getting down to the nitty gritty :)
 
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oscar7 said:
i waqs also told that there is not alot to be said for armoured engineer.. not a quote of mine but fat boys/ farmers in big tanks hiding under cover for long periods eating till someone calls them.

you have the titan and trojan which would be great to learn to work but i dont think you would be seeing much excitment in a trade like that.

Again if its engineers you are going for most of the time you will be doing combat engineer things im told.

Im going engineer driver after ruling out engineer communications but im told 2ill get to drive sometimes" most of my career might be combat engineer stuff which im happy about. getting down to the nitty gritty :)

So you're not actually serving yet? And how exactly do you suppose you'd be in a position to give bebop inside information??
 
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The-Lord-Flasheart said:
oscar7 said:
i waqs also told that there is not alot to be said for armoured engineer.. not a quote of mine but fat boys/ farmers in big tanks hiding under cover for long periods eating till someone calls them.

you have the titan and trojan which would be great to learn to work but i dont think you would be seeing much excitment in a trade like that.

Again if its engineers you are going for most of the time you will be doing combat engineer things im told.

Im going engineer driver after ruling out engineer communications but im told 2ill get to drive sometimes" most of my career might be combat engineer stuff which im happy about. getting down to the nitty gritty :)

So you're not actually serving yet? And how exactly do you suppose you'd be in a position to give bebop inside information??
He is only forwarding what he has been told. From what I can see he has not mentioned he is serving and claims to have "inside information". So get of your high horse
 
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I'll stay on my high horse if you don't mind. It allows me to look down on people.

My issue isn't that he claims to be serving, its his opening line regarding;

You know what really sucks about this site is that when someone askes a question, numb nuts feel they have to rip them apart before answering the Fu**ing question.
He has a ton to learn and ranting like that won't endear him to many on here.

I really don't think bepop was looking for advice from someone slightly further up the pipe line than him. He was looking for inside information from serving soldiers in the various trades he has listed. He is free to take the word of oscar but as I suggested in my previous post, he may wish to ask in the relevant Arm and Corps forums if he wishes to get a soldiers eye view of the job. Let me know when you have your tits stowed? :roll:
 
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oscar7 said:
i waqs also told that there is not alot to be said for armoured engineer.. not a quote of mine but fat boys/ farmers in big tanks hiding under cover for long periods eating till someone calls them.

you have the titan and trojan which would be great to learn to work but i dont think you would be seeing much excitment in a trade like that.

Again if its engineers you are going for most of the time you will be doing combat engineer things im told.

Im going engineer driver after ruling out engineer communications but im told 2ill get to drive sometimes" most of my career might be combat engineer stuff which im happy about. getting down to the nitty gritty :)
No. you'll be stuck in support troop driving wagons painting wagons, servicing wagons, folding up camnets for wagons, unfolding camnets for wagons, painting wagons PRE'ing wagons, POL'ing wagons painting wagons, sweeping the MT yard and learning to play euchre.

The only field engineering you'll be doing in support troop is er..... not much.

Hope this helps
 
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i think you will find that my opening claim is nothin but a true statement, from my own experience and the experience of others we come on and ask questions we think are within reason to be tore apart by people who think that they can " look down on people" bacause they may be further " up the pipe line".

As for my information i provided for bebo is information that i recieved from serving soldiers and that of my recuiter when i was enquiring about the exact same jobs. so therefore my information will not be any different from the info he is going to recieve form probably the same people as myself...im just saving him the days and hours of doing it all again.

Not that i should have to Justify myself to you i just like the thought of putting you in touch with your error :)
 
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oscar7 said:
i think you will find that my opening claim is nothin but a true statement,
Didn't say it wasn't true. Its just that your 'info' is the point of view of a recruiter relayed by a civvy. That wasn't what the poster wanted because he could do exactly the same thing. He asked on here to get the inside line from people in those jobs.


from my own experience
You haven't got any really, have you?


and the experience of others we come on and ask questions we think are within reason to be tore apart by people who think that they can " look down on people" bacause they may be further " up the pipe line".
About 8760 days further up the pipe line as it happens. You seem to have a thing about being torn apart on a website. God help you if a nasty man says a horrible word to you if you ever get through the main gate.


As for my information i provided for bebo is information that i recieved from serving soldiers and that of my recuiter when i was enquiring about the exact same jobs. so therefore my information will not be any different from the info he is going to recieve form probably the same people as myself...im just saving him the days and hours of doing it all again.
I was under the impression that he was after information from people who are in the jobs he asked about and not a civvy who has had a chat with a recruiter (who may or may not feed the party line or a line to fill a gap).

Not that i should have to Justify myself to you i just like the thought of putting you in touch with your error :)
You just did justify yourself. :roll:

Please tell me you are thinking of joining the AAC?
 
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1. They are only questions you are not compelled to answer.

2. Everyone has an opinion, just some are more relevant than others.

3. A challenge to your post is usually in regard to the information you posted, not a challenge to be the alpha male.

4. When Flashy speaks you should listen :) (unless he's being rude!)


16 posts of which 4 have info to pass on or consider, this thread is heading for locking and removal.
 
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The thing that gets me sometimes, people ask for an insight, what the career prospects are etc.

Normally the replies are well constructed and informative, the thing that gets me are people who havent even joined yet, got to phase 1 etc yet they are subject matter experts.

sure they have the dvds and brochures, but the recruiters are so detracted from current military life, that i fell unless u r serving or have served then keep your limited comments a knowledge to yourself

I have worked with RE. the job is ok, but as mentioned you will be maintaining a lot of stores etc

gunner artillery command systems - no comment the RA are a world to their own

AAC soldier - ground crew/bowser op? or are you going for pilot?
 
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A reply from someone with 30 years experience (and still serving)

The bottom line here is that you are looking at three very different trades. Most importantly they span 3 very different BARB test and aptitude ranges. Therefore once you know that you have the aptitude for those 3 trades, then ask your recruiter about going on familiarisation visits to each of those cap badges and make up your own mind.

As far as career prospects are concerned, you are promoted internally on ability, and frankly at this stage of your career that is irrelevent. In terms of transferable trade skills clearly RE and AAC will give you more, but then after a good career in any part of the Army you should have more than enough about you to be of use to an employer.
 
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