Costa Concordia - Sandbank

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  1. Well I was going to put this in a serious forum but then I thought: Fuck it!

    BBC News - Italy cruise ship Costa Concordia aground near Giglio

    Three people are confirmed dead after a cruise ship carrying more than 4,000 people ran aground off Italy.

    The Costa Concordia hit a sandbar on Friday evening near the island of Giglio and listed about 20 degrees, after which people tried to reach land in lifeboats or by swimming.

    Seems some dumb fuck has paddled a boat onto a sandbank whilst as such a 7 miles off course. (Any ex-submarine drivers out there explain how they managed this?) ;-)
  2. And now we know what Royal Navy officers do when they leave the Andrew.
  3. I've been watching it on he news. Was it a woman driver?
  4. The skinflint bastards were probably using RN charts.
  5. How the fuck do you crash a coffee shop?
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  6. £400 million pound boat only launched in 2001 - Cunts should have paid the extra £19.80 and updated their TomTom :)
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  7. That really did make me chuckle. Well done Sir!
  8. Glad to see there was none of that "women and children first" nonsense. The crew made it safely to shore before anyone had a chance to say "Rock"!.
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  9. Unlike some I do not find such incidents amusing, especially when the company in question has a history of such incidents – don’t they learn from previous mistakes??????????????:

    October 2010: Costa Classica collided with the Belgian-flagged vessel near the deep water channel of the Yangtze River as it returned to Shanghai from Cheju, Korea. Several passengers reported to the infirmary with minor injuries. Three passengers were sent ashore for further medical checks. Images at the time showed a gash along the starboard side of Costa Classica that stretched about 20 metres.

    February 2010: the Costa Europa cruise ship hit a pier while docking in Sharm el-Sheik, Egypt, killing three crew members and injuring four passengers.

    June 2008: Costa Classica and MSC Poesia collided in the Adriatic Sea near Dubrovnik. after the anchor line became slack on Costa Classica and she went adrift. There were no injuries, and the damage was minimal. Both vessels continued on their scheduled itinerary with no delays.

    Looking at the photographs in the media and talking to close friends in the shipping industry, what we are seeing should not have been possible as watertight bulkheads in modern ships are designed so that if the hull is breached the ship will flood evenly across it's width and settle on an even keel.

    Regulations by maritime safety authorities [MCA for UK, MTN and Guardia Costiera in Italy, Paris MoU in France] include risk of listing.

    This is part of the stability book which marine architects must have approved by the relevant authority when a ship is being built. The book has umpteen pages of calculations [for any new build it's over 100 pages] relating to all the circumstances in which the hull might take on water.

    Then there is the evacuation plan - that of course means dry-shod evacuation - which includes access routes / times from passenger and crew spaces, lifejackets, emergency boats and life rafts etc. Which again takes account of the fact that one side or the other might be unusable because of listing / damage etc.

    One thing that must not go unanswered is the competence of the crew as there appears, from the media reports, that numerous procedures were either, not followed, or not in place.

    What surprises me most is a grounding in such well-charted waters - but then that comment was made about a certain submarine and a Scottish Island not so long ago!!!!!

    Costa Concordia.jpg

    Photo courtesy of Le Parisien

    Update: From the pictures now appearing in La Stampa which show some spectacularly serious damage to the hull ... maybe three or more compartments damaged at the very least. A gash 50 metres long in the port bilge, with a huge chunk of rock broken off and embedded in the side of the ship .... It looks as though there was a serious error of navigation with the vessel going onto rocks at full cruising speed. This sort of damage is not done by just nudging a sandbank.

    The only thing is for certain is it probably wasn't an iceberg.
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  10. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    Shame its not a bit further out and a bit deeper - would make a cracking wreck dive!
  11. Actually really good idea, keep it as is; have dive schools set up in it (just like James Bond) and lots of fun for everyone.

    It would appear that earlier reports are not accurate; as many as 70 missing now.
  12. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    Anyone going on a cruise ship with an Italian* Captain and crew are dicing with death quite frankly.
    Italian* cruise ship officers love themselves so much that I doubt that they have time for mundane tasks like safe navigation etc.
    They do like looking at themselves in mirrors though.

    *Also applies to Greek officers and crew.
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  13. Isn't it true that Italian ships navigate better whilst making full speed astern?
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  14. Fucking hell, seriously?
  15. So true, just look at these instances :- MS Achille Lauro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia & :- SS Andrea Doria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia & some Greek examples :- OCEANOS CRUISE SHIP SINKING - oceanossinking Where this happened "When a passenger cruise liner sinks most people imagine it will be women and children first into the ship's lifeboats, and that the captain and crew will be the last to leave. On board the sinking Oceanos this did not happen. Instead, the Oceanos cruise director, Lorraine Betts, and the cruise ship entertainers suddenly found themselves running the rescue of the Oceanos passengers on their own, during a terrible storm and in the middle of the night........" & :- MS Express Samina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia where this happened "Passengers were apparently unaided by the crew in evacuating, and there was widespread panic among them." & :- Greek cruise ship sinks after hitting rocks - Travel - Cruise Travel -