Correct highland dress at a white tie function

BuggerAll

LE
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#1
A friend of mine has been invited to a 'white tie' function. He intends to wear Highland dress and was discussing with me what would be correct. I don't know what is the strict protocol so if anybody out there does I'd be grateful and will pass it on.

For what its worth I think strictly speaking he should wear a 'Montrose' jacket with a silk jabot. However this is not practical as it is almost impossible to hire them, and having one made is costly. A highland outfitter has advised him to wear a white tie and marcella waistcoat with his PC, but another has said that white ties and kilts are a not on. Hence the discussion.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
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#2
only time I've worn white tie with my kilt was for my graduation.

As far as am aware fine to wear normal Black tie and just change colour of tie!

But should be white hose.
 

BuggerAll

LE
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#3
White Hose?- Cream if anything - but surely diced hose with buckle brogues are more formal. Cream hose and ghillie brogues are more suitable for day wear and are only accepted for evening wear as a money saving expedient. Like those seal skin (rabbit) purse sporrans, that are so popular with outfitters, there OK if you can't get the real thing.
 
#6
White tie is white tie where ever you come from! (Unless, ofcourse, you happen to be Mr Brown) Oik.
 
#8
LOL Queensman.

Just to add that I have never even been to a white tie event north of the border, so the question has never arisen. Maybe that is down to the jock-o-chav circles I move in. White tie with kilt sounds nasty to me - so I would 'drop the kilt' if white tie reqd. Might be OK for you toffs in the Home Counties.
 
#9
right,

basically Highland Evening Dress is the jock equivilent to White Tie. (At least at jock div Ball that is the accepted form of dress) Highland Evening Dress - Dress Kilt (if you want to be padantic it differes from a day kilt) Fur Sporran (again different from a day sporran) brogues - either buckle or otherwise, cream hose. Jacket wise Prince Charles is fine - DO NOT wear a traditional white tie or black tie jacket. Trews are not generally accepted as 'white tie' but i would seek clarification on this.

Mont
 
#10
white hose cream hose.....all very girly.

Diced hose or argyle hose would be more formal, with buckle brogues.

I have seen a short cut - Mess dress type black jacket worn with white waistcoat, shirt and white tie. Looked OK, but not common.
 
#11
The traditional white tie version of Highland dress consists of:

• Black coatee - Prince Charlie, Montrose and Sheriffmuir jackets are suitable
• Black waistcoat
• Kilt
• White pique shirt and vest with white studs and cufflinks
• White bow tie
• Black Ghillie brogues
• Tartan or red and white, red and black or blue and white diced kilt hose
• Flashes
• Sporran - formal type with a silver-mounted cantle-top and fur pouch or a full fur and animal mask type

For education purposes only.
 
#12
sknn said:
A friend of mine has been invited to a 'white tie' function. He intends to wear Highland dress and was discussing with me what would be correct. I don't know what is the strict protocol so if anybody out there does I'd be grateful and will pass it on.
What would be correct is White Tie!

Crusty
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#13
If one goes to a white tie do in Mess Kit (and it is perfectly proper so to do) then one still wears a black bow tie. The same applies if one is wearing a coatee (Prince Charlie) with the kilt.

Montrose jackets, and other high collared kilt jackets with a lace jabot and cuffs are more dressy than a coatee, and look better with buckled brogues ILO the ghillie brogues more commonly worn.

White hose are only worn by pipers (traditionally), cream hose are considered acceptable for evening, as are diced hose.

If you want to see the full range of kilt options for the evening, check out the Kinloch Anderson site Kinloch Anderson Evening Jackets
 
#14
The traditional white-tie version of Highland dress consists of:
  • Formal kilt doublet in barathea or velvet— the regulation doublet, Montrose doublet, Sheriffmuir doublet, and Kenmore doublet are suitable in a variety of colors
  • Waistcoat in white marcella, tartan (to match the kilt), or the same material as the doublet; no waistcoat is worn with the Kenmore doublet
  • Kilt with formal kilt pin
  • White stiff-front shirt with wing collar and white, gold, or silver studs and cufflinks for the regulation doublet, or a white formal shirt and optional lace cuffs for the Montrose, Sheriffmuir, and Kenmore doublets
  • White lace jabot; a black silk or white marcella bow tie may be worn in place of the jabot with the regulation doublet (highland wear often includes a black bow tie even at white-tie events)
  • Black formal shoes or black buckle brogues
  • Tartan or diced kilt hose
  • Silk garter flashes or garter ties
  • Silver-mounted Sporran in fur, sealskin, or hair with a silver chain belt
  • Black, silver-mounted, and jeweled Sgian dubh
  • Short belted plaid with silver plaid brooch (optional)
  • Scottish dirk (optional)
  • Highland bonnet with badge (only worn out of doors)
 
#15
Better off wearing trews. Fewer peasantish mistakes to be made by the unmoneyed Gentleman intending to show Correctness, and only slightly peasantish all-in-all.

The do was twelve years ago; I hope he's got over the embarrassment by now.
 
#16
If one goes to a white tie do in Mess Kit (and it is perfectly proper so to do) then one still wears a black bow tie. The same applies if one is wearing a coatee (Prince Charlie) with the kilt.

Montrose jackets, and other high collared kilt jackets with a lace jabot and cuffs are more dressy than a coatee, and look better with buckled brogues ILO the ghillie brogues more commonly worn.

White hose are only worn by pipers (traditionally), cream hose are considered acceptable for evening, as are diced hose.

If you want to see the full range of kilt options for the evening, check out the Kinloch Anderson site Kinloch Anderson Evening Jackets
This would have been useful information - in 2006 :)
 

ugly

LE
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#17
FFS if you lot dont know then the chance of anyone calling out the op over it are slim!
 

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