Corps Birthday

What Did You Do For The Corps Birthday?

  • A Regimentally / centrally organised event

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  • 5th Apr, I thought it was 7th of May and was held in the Cabbage patch

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  • Knew about it - didnt care

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  • Realised last minute - hurridly organised a piss up, any excuse eh!

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  • The significance (or lack thereof) didnt register

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#3
Surely the question should be; "What do you propose to do to recall the demise of the RAOC (or insert Corps of your choice) when the RCT took everyone else in the RLC over" as the anniversary is tomorrow (5th April) :twisted:

P.S. Didn't vote cos I don't care- although I might be seen sporting an RAOC capbadge tomorrow in memorium :wink:
 
#4
When are you and your ilk finally out of the Army? I can't believe you cant let something so relatively trivial go after 12 years! I mean I'd be interested to know how long you had served in 1993 and how set in your ways you actually were.

Oh and there was an option on the poll to say that you didn't care, I was just attempting to stimulate some debate that didn't rotate around ATs and embittered stackers!
 
#5
I take it you are not ex rag and oil then Ford?
 
#6
Ford_Prefect said:
I was just attempting to stimulate some debate that didn't rotate around ATs and embittered stackers!
Well said that man.
 
#7
If you cut me I bleed blue, red and gold!

..................or is that blue and gold?

That said, if my mate is to be believed the glory days of one one Ord sounded awesome (or was that Eleven Squadron ?!)
 
#8
The choice of topic for this thread was one of the most likely to set of the embittered stackers and AT's(some of them are the same bloke).

If you and Melchers want to dig in on the moral high ground together then yah boo sucks to you!

And as an addendum my opinion is that the corps is too large to ever have any real loyalty or family spirit. Has the heirarchy forgotten why we keep the regimental system. It is accepted now that the british bill oddie never fought for Queen and Country he fought for his platoon, company, battalion and at the most regiment. So the expectation that we should all fall in love with an organisation 17000 strong is a bit much.

And anyway some of these old codgers were indoctrinated as teenagers and are impossible to change, even the use of these new fangled toothbrushes is too much for some.
 
#10
Has anything changed from this 2001 (RLC Web Site is really up to date!) statement, that you have no association Branch's? NOT RCT/RASC Branches mind you but RLC Branches? Within the RAOC/RPC/ACC there is talk of convergence into the RLC Association, and this is looked on by some as a ready made branch structure.

http://www.army.mod.uk/rlc/associations/rlc_association/notices.htm

Locate branches with or near a Regular or TA unit with a serving officer as co-ordinator although unit commitments would increase the burden. Located near Garrison towns with an RLC presence creates a critical mass.

The Forming Corps structure should be used as a basis using their branches as a core and gradually assimilating them under the RLC banner provided they are not made to feel they have lost their identity. Branches must offer 21st Century interest not “a whole evening going through minutes”.
The RLC should not forget its 'Founding Corps' History. But it seems to me that it is not just the ex-RAOC faction that fly the flag! The Pioneers are more or less a separate Regiment. Catering is still more or less independent, which leaves the age old RCT v RAOC rivalry which I feel should be encouraged as an esprit-de-corps to such a degree that the old cap badges should still be worn under the 'Really Large Corps' umbrella, much in the same way as the AGC & AMS manages still to do.

But then again the BORG assimilated us 12 years ago and Resistance is futile! Note the wording about 'Founding Corps' Association Branches above!!
 
#11
I agree that the founding Corps shouldn’t be ignored or forgotten but pride as in large multi Battalion Infantry Regiments should be focussed on the Regiments and then the Corps. There isn’t any mileage in the old forming Corps divisions as composite and golf bagged units are so common now.

For the record I am a pure bred RLC Officer who has remained in the transport discipline and I have seen the old cap badge rivalry hinder the TA Regiments to a degree and has caused needless friction. This process is about to be re-enacted with one of the Independent TA Transport Regiments re-rolling to Supply which will be a massive shame.
 
#12
Stig said:
I agree that the founding Corps shouldn’t be ignored or forgotten but pride as in large multi Battalion Infantry Regiments should be focussed on the Regiments and then the Corps. There isn’t any mileage in the old forming Corps divisions as composite and golf bagged units are so common now.
I agree with your comments to a point. The old corps divisions exsist mostly in the trade groups. I notice it most in the AT trade (of which I was not one)

I was disappointed on my last visit to the Corps Museum that so little was about the forming corps, and the last 12 years are shown out of proportion. I am active in the RAOC Association where our charter allows membership from any of the founding corps in our Branch's around the country, but non RAOC members seem to be ex attached personnel rather than 'founding corps' as a whole. I am also a full member of the RLC Association as well by the way.

Most ex-RAOC members I know view the 5th April as the death of the RAOC than the birth of the RLC.

I view it as both....
 
#14
Sadly, I have to admit that the whole event slipped under my radar and it sems the radar of everyone else in my working environment!

However I must admit that Corps Loyalty is not on the top of my list, my allegiance rests soley and admirably with my trade!
 
#16
Snapdragon, Its "trade-centric" people like you that cause the problems in the Corps..

Stop being so insular, get to know others from the Corps, you might be suprised...

honestly!
 
#17
Personally I think it’s a question of any excuse for a piss up.

Ask not why you didn't remember but why COs, RSMs and Adjutants didn't! Probably because there’s no CR / OJAR mileage in it! :roll:
 
#18
Hellfyr says

"Snapdragon, Its "trade-centric" people like you that cause the problems in the Corps.."

and I thought it was the senior bods with General Melchett complex (no offence moderating bloke) who were the root of all evil.
 
#19
Ford_Prefect said:
That said, if my mate is to be believed the glory days of one one Ord sounded awesome (or was that Eleven Squadron ?!)
Perhpas you might be good enough to tell me who your mate is, who claims that One One was awesome. I am interested who it is because it was. I am glad also to see you mention its title [when RAOC] corectly, that of One One. Now [its present unit is RLC] you can call it what you like.
 

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