Corporal Peter William Laing, The Black Watch

E

error_unknown

Guest
#1
While we are all justly excited about Pte Beharry's tremendous bravery, I notice that Cpl Laing has received a QGM to add to his MC! He will also be needing a wheelbarrow to cart his enormous, clanging, steel balls around. :D
 
#2
A QGM and an MC....... Feel like volunteering to push said Barrow round for him
 
F

fozzy

Guest
#3
Well done to Cpl Laing MC QGM of the Black Watch.
Lot of very brave people being honoured today.


I think B+Q will run out of wheelbarrows!

I shall be raising a glass to them all tonight.
 
#4
Cogratulations to Cpl Laing MC QGM,and to all 1BW who recieved awards yesterday.I will also be toasting them tonight!!

Forward the forty twa!


As we say in 1BW....................
 
#5
Outstanding Corporal Laing, truly outstanding.
 
#7
Yes, not to be forgotten, well done the Black Watch and all those receiving honours and awards.

Well done to that RM reservist as well, that affair must have been a bit hairy, anyone seen the citation?
 
#8
Corporal said:
Sorry to interrupt, but what is a QGM and an MC? Still working on my Britspeak.
QGM = Queens Gallantry Medal
MC = Military Cross

Both are awards made to servicemen for bravery.

Ghost
 
#9
chickenpunk said:
While we are all justly excited about Pte Beharry's tremendous bravery, I notice that Cpl Laing has received a QGM to add to his MC! He will also be needing a wheelbarrow to cart his enormous, clanging, steel balls around. :D
Outstanding effort Cpl Laing

I imagine he has the RSM pushing the wheelbarrow around for him :lol:
 
#11

maninblack

LE
Book Reviewer
#12
Corporal said:
Sorry to interrupt, but what is a QGM and an MC? Still working on my Britspeak.
They are real medals for real men, not brave boy badges because your civvie airliner flew over Belfast at 6 miles altitude. :D
 
B

Biscuits_AB

Guest
#13
Well done both The 'Watch and The PWRR. Yesterday I was so hacked off with this Army and to be honest I have been for some time. However, just reading what those lads all did for thier richly deserved awards has put a few things into perspective. What a morale booster eh?

I am exceptionally proud to serve in the same Army as these men. I wish them and thier proud families every happiness and success for thier respective futures.

We're not too quick to reward, but when we do, we do get it right.

They have set examples for those who come after us to look up to and follow. Can you imagine the look on the faces of new recruits in the not too distant future at ITC Catterick, when they learn that thier Platoon Sgt is a VC holder? No finer example of soldiery.

Lets not forget the young lad from the HCR who bagged that GC on the last round. Another exceptionallly selfless and courageous young Tom.

There is a God out there.......and he wears Combat '95.
 
#15
maninblack said:
Corporal said:
Sorry to interrupt, but what is a QGM and an MC? Still working on my Britspeak.
They are real medals for real men, not brave boy badges because your civvie airliner flew over Belfast at 6 miles altitude. :D
If this wasn't a serious thread, I'd give that comment the answer it deserves.

Well done Corporal Laing. I am of the mind that the men of the Black Watch are not to be taken lightly.


EDIT: Cheers for all the info on the Brit medals gents, very helpful.
 
#16
Corp,

I might get this wrong but

VC = MoH
CSC = Navy Cross/DSC/what ever the air version is
MC = Silver Star*
QGM = Bronze Star*

* not totally true as the criteria for QGM differs from the MC, its not exactly a more brave thing, if I rememer right a MC is an "In the face of the enemy on operations etc" type whilst the QGM is a risk life in war or peace

Give you an example, I read a RHA officer won the MC for keeping cool during a fire fight and repeatedly put himself in danger whilst relaying orders and motivating men to fight, whilst a BW pte won the QGM for diving into a river to rescue a comrade trapped in in overturned vehicle. QGM's are oft won by Police and FireFighters as you can imagine, also rememeber a guy winning one in Bosnia because he ran to adminster first aid to a civilian woman shot by a sniper whilst coming under fire by the same sniper, that sort of thing. You could argue that the actions carried out for the QGM is exactly the smae for the MC, just the circumstances are different, same goes for Tpr Finney who only missed out on the VC due to the fact that the "enemy" fire was infact "friendly"
 
F

fozzy

Guest
#17
Biscuits_AB said:
Well done both The 'Watch and The PWRR. Yesterday I was so hacked off with this Army and to be honest I have been for some time. However, just reading what those lads all did for thier richly deserved awards has put a few things into perspective. What a morale booster eh?
Odd isn't it - I've been on a real high all day over this and the other honours. A right old boost for everyone and as you state - puts things into perspective

Biscuits_AB said:
I am exceptionally proud to serve in the same Army as these men. I wish them and thier proud families every happiness and success for thier respective futures.
Not much more to add to that - well said Sir!
 
#18
Aye, what Foz quoted and commented from AB's post.

These lads make you proud to wear the Uniform.

'Kin good show. Richly deserved medals.

Glass will be raised in honour tonight.
 
E

error_unknown

Guest
#19
wellyhead said:
Corp,

I might get this wrong but

VC = MoH
CSC = Navy Cross/DSC/what ever the air version is
MC = Silver Star*
QGM = Bronze Star*

* not totally true as the criteria for QGM differs from the MC, its not exactly a more brave thing, if I rememer right a MC is an "In the face of the enemy on operations etc" type whilst the QGM is a risk life in war or peace

Give you an example, I read a RHA officer won the MC for keeping cool during a fire fight and repeatedly put himself in danger whilst relaying orders and motivating men to fight, whilst a BW pte won the QGM for diving into a river to rescue a comrade trapped in in overturned vehicle. QGM's are oft won by Police and FireFighters as you can imagine, also rememeber a guy winning one in Bosnia because he ran to adminster first aid to a civilian woman shot by a sniper whilst coming under fire by the same sniper, that sort of thing. You could argue that the actions carried out for the QGM is exactly the smae for the MC, just the circumstances are different, same goes for Tpr Finney who only missed out on the VC due to the fact that the "enemy" fire was infact "friendly"
NO NO NO NO NO!

There is no equivalence between British and US awards below the level of the Medal of Honor/VC/GC. The award criteria are very different and they cannot be compared. The US has a relatively simple - and responsive - system compared to ours and gives out fewer types of award, but places the decision on whether an award is made or not at a much lower level to us. You cannot compare a Silver Star, for example (which I believe is awarded by Corps Commanders) with an MC. Although they appear to 'rank' at about the same level, the criteria for awarding them do not compare. This is not a slur on the US or the British system; they're just different.
 
#20
Which is why I put a little * in there to say that the comparison isn't strictly true

I do think however that you can in some way measure compare this new fangled CSC with the DSC
 

New Posts

Latest Threads

Top