Corp seniority.

#1
Hi to all, had a discussion in the Mess the other night with an RLC comrade, she reckoned that the RLC were senior to the Good old REME boys. As I chuckled she tried to explain that the RLC inherited the seniority rights of the RAOC, does anyone have a cast iron answer on this - The British Legion is to benefit to the tune of £100 from one of our pockets. Thanks in advance. :?: :?:
 

Percy_Pigeon

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#3
I’m afraid so

PART 1 - PRECEDENCE
Precedence of Corps and Regiments
8.001. The following table gives the order of precedence of corps and regiments in the Army. Regiments shown collectively therein take precedence amongst themselves as shown in the Army List.
Order Corps or regiment
1 The Life Guards and The Blues and Royals.
2 Royal Horse Artillery (a).
3 Royal Armoured Corps.
4 Royal Regiment of Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery excepted).
5 Corps of Royal Engineers.
6 Royal Corps of Signals.
7 Regiments of Foot Guards.
8 Regiments of Infantry (b), (c).
9 Special Air Service Regiment.
10 Army Air Corps.
11 Royal Army Chaplains' Department.
12 The Royal Logistic Corps.
13 Royal Army Medical Corps.
14 Corps of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers.
15 Adjutant General's Corps.
16 Royal Army Veterinary Corps.
17 Small Arms School Corps.
18 Royal Army Dental Corps.
19 Intelligence Corps.
20 Army Physical Training Corps.
21 General Service Corps.
22 Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps.
23 Corps of Army Music.
24 Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers (Militia).
25 The Honourable Artillery Company.
26
27 Territorial Army (d)
The Royal Gibraltar Regiment

Stackers forever
 

Percy_Pigeon

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#4
the_man_in_the_corner said:
Did we not come from the fat badges??
And I do believe that the REME had some connection to the Service Corps/RAOC.

However I don’t believe I’m quite right. I await correction by military spotters
 
#5
Percy_Pigeon said:
the_man_in_the_corner said:
Did we not come from the fat badges??
And I do believe that the REME had some connection to the Service Corps/RAOC.

However I don’t believe I’m quite right. I await correction by military spotters
The Corps was born from the the Royal Army Service Corps and the Royal Engineers ( hence the Corps Colours .... taken from both)
 
#6
Percy_Pigeon said:
I’m afraid so

Queens Regulations for the Army

PART 1 - PRECEDENCE
Precedence of Corps and Regiments
8.001. The following table gives the order of precedence of corps and regiments in the Army. Regiments shown collectively therein take precedence amongst themselves as shown in the Army List.
Order Corps or regiment
1 The Life Guards and The Blues and Royals.
2 Royal Horse Artillery (a).
3 Royal Armoured Corps.
4 Royal Regiment of Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery excepted).
5 Corps of Royal Engineers.
6 Royal Corps of Signals.
7 Regiments of Foot Guards.
8 Regiments of Infantry (b), (c).
9 Special Air Service Regiment.
10 Army Air Corps.
11 Royal Army Chaplains' Department.
12 The Royal Logistic Corps.
13 Royal Army Medical Corps.
14 Corps of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers.
15 Adjutant General's Corps.
16 Royal Army Veterinary Corps.
17 Small Arms School Corps.
18 Royal Army Dental Corps.
19 Intelligence Corps.
20 Army Physical Training Corps.
21 General Service Corps.
22 Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps.
23 Corps of Army Music.
24 Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers (Militia).
25 The Honourable Artillery Company.
26 Territorial Army (d)
27 The Royal Gibraltar Regiment
PP is of course quoting from Queens Regulations.

REME was formed on the existing framework of the RAOC Engineering Branch, strengthened by the transfer of certain technical units and tradesmen from the RE and RASC. At the same time a number of individual tradesmen were transferred into REME from other corps.

REME Formation - 1 October 1942

Formed from:

Phase 1: 1 Oct 1942

RAOC (Engineering Branch, admin and storemen of the Royal Army Ordnance Corps) (Base & Field Workshops)

RASC (Royal Army Service Corps) (Heavy Repair Sections)

RE (Some specialised workshops of the Royal Engineers)

Individual tradesmen

Phase 2: 1951 the Corps took over full responsibility for 'unit repair' (LAD's)

receiving men on transfer from:

RAC (Royal Armoured Corps)

RASC (Royal Army Service Corps)

RA (Royal Artillery)

Infantry

Some other Corps

Since both the RAOC and the RCT (formed from the RASC) were senior to REME pre 1993 the RLC took thier place in the order of Precedence in April 1993 and are indeed senior to REME.

Oh! and by the way the RAOC colours in 1942 were Blue, Red & Yellow!


Sorry!
 
#7
sorry to pick faults with the list but at the top should be the kings troop rha. after 17 months with them i got very sick of them all saying that they were right of the line.
 
#8
magictorch said:
sorry to pick faults with the list but at the top should be the kings troop rha. after 17 months with them i got very sick of them all saying that they were right of the line.
Correct (or so I have been informed) but only when parading the Guns!!
 
#11
Mig_Mag_Tig_Tag_Arc_Gas said:
Thanks for all the replies, looks like I shall be shelling out a Hundred Pounds -still it is for a good cause. :cry:
:worship: Good for you mate. :mrgreen:
 
#12
Wedge_not_Sapper said:
magictorch said:
sorry to pick faults with the list but at the top should be the kings troop rha. after 17 months with them i got very sick of them all saying that they were right of the line.
Correct (or so I have been informed) but only when parading the Guns!!
Thats what the (a) is for:

a. But on parade with their guns to take the right and march at the head of the Household Cavalry.

They are not Number 1, because it is only the Mounted Kings Troop of the Royal Horse Artillery that have this honour. Not the whole of the RHA.
 
#13
Mike_2817 said:
Wedge_not_Sapper said:
magictorch said:
sorry to pick faults with the list but at the top should be the kings troop rha. after 17 months with them i got very sick of them all saying that they were right of the line.
Correct (or so I have been informed) but only when parading the Guns!!
Thats what the (a) is for:

a. But on parade with their guns to take the right and march at the head of the Household Cavalry.

They are not Number 1, because it is only the Mounted Kings Troop of the Royal Horse Artillery that have this honour. Not the whole of the RHA.
My bold - I'm sure that what was said. Your orignal post didn't explain what Ref a was - nevermind I bet only the Donkey whollopers get tetchy about it anyway....Get to the left sah :D
 
#14
Wedge_not_Sapper said:
Your orignal post didn't explain what Ref a was - nevermind I bet only the Donkey whollopers get tetchy about it anyway....Get to the left sah :D
I know it didn't! as its not really that important to the REME. I did not add (b), (c) or (d) either!

So here they are:

Notes:
a. But on parade with their guns to take the right and march at the head of the Household Cavalry.
b. All corps shown in the Corps Warrant as composed of regiments of Infantry (and this includes the Parachute Regiment and the Brigade of Gurkhas) are deemed to have equal precedence. The precedence of individual Infantry regiments remains as it was before the grouping of Infantry regiments was introduced.
c.
(1). The Royal Marines will take precedence after The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment). The Royal Marines Reserve will take precedence after The 51st Highland Regiment.
(2). For Joint Service parades which include the Royal Marines, see para J8.008.
d. In order of Arms as for the Regular Army.
 

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