Corbyn the communist spy!

Compare and contrast someone like Attlee with Corbyn.

Attlee lead a government that founded the welfare state as we know it.

But he set his face like flint against communist subversion ...

Attlle would roll in his grave watching Corbyn. He instituted policy to help people escape from the five giants of 'Want, Disease, Ignorance, Squalor and Idleness'', and defended the country and parliamentary democracy.

Corbyn is pissing his legacy up the wall quite frankly.
Quite. Attlee was a decent and honourable man with a distinguished fighting record as an infantry officer in WW1 (including Gallipoli, Suvla, Mesopotamia - where he was seriously wounded while storming a trench - and the Western Front). Churchill’s notorious sneer (“a modest man, who has much to be modest about”) was both wrong and deeply distasteful: definitely not his own finest hour.

In the remarkable contrast between these two men - Attlee the Great War warrior vs Corbyn the Class War traitor - can be seen all too clearly the pitiful and sordid decline of the once-respectable Labour Party.
 
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I think after reading Bugsy's latest diatribe, we can rule out well-read.
Well, it is possible to be well read within one's own view point.

I quite like the Islamists who give out lectures sat in front of shelves of books on Koran, tafsir (explaination of the Koran), Hadith and so on.

Here's the Mujahid Sheikh Awlaki (and his boogie-on down finger) giving a chat. Even when hiding in Yemen without a pot to piss in, he still has the bookshelf behind for that "scholar cred".



Exegesis*, however, does not make one generally well read. It just means one can exist within the bubble.

*I'm off for a w@nk**, I got to use the word "exegesis" on ARRSE. That must win a prize?

** And not over an altar boy.
 

AlienFTM

MIA
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any Soviet or Warsaw Pact Inelligence service worth its salt would have infiltrated such organisations as CND back in the day, and attemped o subvert some of the membership,; especially those who might be in positions of influence socially, such as Academics
I may still have the sticker I acquired in the 1980s that never made it into the car.

KGB :heart: CND.
 

seaweed

LE
Book Reviewer
The Communist/Socialist message is impossible to achieve IMO. The real socialist message is close to the one that J Christ was giving out. This is not the message given out by religion, whichever sect of it is followed, as religion is just a business. Human nature means that the human race will always be in competition with itself so no form of socialism is possible - again, just my opinion.
The difference being that Jesus' message was to the individual, about individual, personal responsibility to one's neighbour, not about what the State should do.
 

seaweed

LE
Book Reviewer
Many on the UK's political Left embraced CND (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmamen) which was a good thing, and was/is their legal right to campaign against such terrible weapon systems. However, any Soviet or Warsaw Pact Inelligence service worth its salt would have infiltrated such organisations as CND back in the day, and attemped o subvert some of the membership,; especially those who might be in positions of influence socially, such as Academics and elected parliamentarians who might rise up the ladder of promotion, and others. It has been alleged that CND and similar organisations were partially funded by the KGB or Warsaw Pact intelligence services. So why not Labour party back benchers when they were early in their careers. Certainly such organisations were proscribed as regards membership for anyone wishing to join the armed services.

Of course, all these allegations will be denied strenuously as a 'Tory Smear Campaign' and as 'Fake News'. The KGB did penetrate even MI6 before and after the WW2 years and into the 1950s and 1960s - people such as Blake, Blunt and others. Political organisations such as CND were 'fair game' to Warsaw Pact intelligence operatives - so why not the current leadership of the Labour Party - after all some of them make NO bones about espousing Marxist agendas, and some have allegedly stated their regret at the passing of Soviet communisms.

So - make up your own minds about the current Labour Party leadership and the attempts of Momentum to influence policy and the selection process for potential Labour candidates for parliament. ~The current Labour Party are trying to distance themselves from New labour's years under Blair, Brown and Mandelson, and the so-called "Third Way" espoused by Blair. Corbyn might very well be a 'nice man', and the same with John macDonnal. But political cynicism mightcloud the way at the moment at the current churning UK politcs is in.:rolleyes: (the Hard Left did attempt to penetrate Labour many years ago, so why no again now?)
CND were traitors funded in part by our enemies in order to undermine our defence.
 
Well, it is possible to be well read within one's own view point.

I quite like the Islamists who give out lectures sat in front of shelves of books on Koran, tafsir (explaination of the Koran), Hadith and so on.

Here's the Mujahid Sheikh Awlaki (and his boogie-on down finger) giving a chat. Even when hiding in Yemen without a pot to piss in, he still has the bookshelf behind for that "scholar cred".



Exegesis*, however, does not make one generally well read. It just means one can exist within the bubble.

*I'm off for a w@nk**, I got to use the word "exegesis" on ARRSE. That must win a prize?

** And not over an altar boy.
I think AAA invented the 'surprised moose' pose most loved by the scholars.

( 2 spread out palms next to the head, usually used to deliver some inarguable point from the Quran)
 
The BBC have spoilt all the fun by speaking to the head Librarian of the Czech secret service and it turns out that uncle Corbys file had a 1 in front of it denoting he was of special interest whereas to be a full blown collaborater you needed a 4. Diane Aboot was a 7129 er 60.
 

DaManBugs

LE
Book Reviewer
I have avoided joining the ‘pillory-Bugsy’ crowd, but having read this I can understand the derision directed your way. Do you actually believe what you wrote, or do you post such complete and utter bollocks in order to provoke?

Why, without exception, does every socialist/communist group/state have an elite for whom the laws/restrictions/limits do not apply?
I notice you don't actually explain why it's "such complete and utter bollocks". But maybe that's your personal method of discussion. I may be wrong but it looks to me very much like a clumsy attempt to curry favour with other ARRSErs - which would also explain the lack of explanation.

Your second paragraph does have a very valid point. It's why what was termed "Socialism" (or "Communism" in some countries) as practiced in the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc states was doomed to failure from the offset. Having such an elite is neither Socialist, nor is it democratic. Just about every state has imposed Socialism from above. That's a sure way to ensure its demise. If the system isn't supported by the majority of citizens, then it's not viable. It's as simple as that.

To ensure that their systems survived, those so-called "Socialist" states had to employ the standard Capitalist methods of secret police and other domestic intelligence agencies to supress dissidence. That, too, can't be classed as in any way democratic.

On the other hand, there are millions of Russians, East Germans, Czechs, Slovakians, Hungarians, etc who know exactly what (and why) it went wrong the last time around and who can provide useful pointers and valuable guidance so that it doesn't occur again. The problem is that the way the world's going at the moment, with everyone shirking the responsibility for coming generations, the privileged classes aren't willing to forego their doubtful pleasures until it's too late. In my opinion, only more drastic Socialist measures can do anything to improve the life of the average citizen, while at the same time doing something positive for our environment. We have to start somewhere or we'll surely perish as a species.

MsG
 
Whilst you are quoting the used toilet paper of valid information, I dont really care...that labour party have sold themselves to the far left, which ironically serves against their (ex) core voters.

Bringing in subhuman scum from the third world, ensuring that british working class men and women (and their children) are at a disadvantage (unless they are super smart females and/or some mutant gender) is now the labour party manifesto.

Now they have completely lost their way, I wonder who will take that vote? It wont be Corbyn and friends.
Sub-human scum?

Quoting this for posterity
 
I notice you don't actually explain why it's "such complete and utter bollocks". That's my personal method of discussion.
Edited for accuracy.
 
Or at least until the clean-up of racist-whiffing posts in a CA thread is executed...
Sometimes I look back at Viro-bonos reign of firm but fair terror in current affairs with a warm heart

Has to be said i’m Not really contributing much debate but that’s because most of the idiots posting only deserve abuse rather than counterpoints to their nonsense

At least Corbyn hasn’t eaten anyone’s hamster yet
 
Sometimes I look back at Viro-bonos reign of firm but fair terror in current affairs with a warm heart

Has to be said i’m Not really contributing much debate but that’s because most of the idiots posting only deserve abuse rather than counterpoints to their nonsense

At least Corbyn hasn’t eaten anyone’s hamster yet
It has to be said that this entire thread from the OP onwards has played quite loosely with the rules of CA. RIP VD VB.
 

DaManBugs

LE
Book Reviewer
The BBC have spoilt all the fun by speaking to the head Librarian of the Czech secret service and it turns out that uncle Corbys file had a 1 in front of it denoting he was of special interest whereas to be a full blown collaborater you needed a 4. Diane Aboot was a 7129 er 60.
Jan Sarkocy (real name Janosc Villiac) was, as I've already stated on this thread, exposed as a bluffer and phantasist by the Czech authorities in 2003, when he offered to "out" any number of German politicians who were also paid large sums of dosh. Corbyn and Co allegedly received ten grand apiece, but to date no-one has produced any receipts for the amounts or even any proof that they were ever paid.

There's also all the bollix about him having met with this person or with that person, but there's little to no mention of Theresa May meeting with the Saudis and other despots, or that creature Thatcher being great friends with the South African dictators or Pinochet (among many others).

MsG
 
My grandad said if you heard him on the radio in the next room he sounded just like Hitler.


I think he got it from "Dear Bill" in the Eye.

If you watched his exagerated gesturing, that too was a Hitler trait.. see about 10.40 onwards
 
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Sky actually discussing Labour MPs taking payment to meet spies. It seemed to me at least that the news presenter and the Mirror journalist seemed to be keen to play it down. The other guest, rightly aired his concerns. BBC silent as ever.
'silent as ever' or on the front page of their website yesterday........strange concept of the word 'silent'
 
Jan Sarkocy (real name Janosc Villiac) was, as I've already stated on this thread, exposed as a bluffer and phantasist by the Czech authorities in 2003, when he offered to "out" any number of German politicians who were also paid large sums of dosh. Corbyn and Co allegedly received ten grand apiece, but to date no-one has produced any receipts for the amounts or even any proof that they were ever paid.

There's also all the bollix about him having met with this person or with that person, but there's little to no mention of Theresa May meeting with the Saudis and other despots, or that creature Thatcher being great friends with the South African dictators or Pinochet (among many others).

MsG
Thanks, I bet if we worked in McDonald’s you’d have a 5 star badge.
 
There's also all the bollix about him having met with this person or with that person, but there's little to no mention of Theresa May meeting with the Saudis and other despots, or that creature Thatcher being great friends with the South African dictators or Pinochet (among many others).

MsG
More 'whataboutism' from the apologist for communism - how many times Bugsy?
Whataboutism - Wikipedia

Whataboutism
(also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]


It's a busted flush, give up

Face it, your man's a compromised Marxist-Leninist who sold his soul in the 1970s.

Now, how about you apologise for all your lies on this site? Just a thought........let's start off with you providing proof your entire family was murdered twice by the British Army or should we start with something simple? My mate Paul would like to see your evidence that he hit a woman during the famous Battle of Orgreave, you said you had some......but so far nothing......almost as if it was an article of faith that you can't abandon just because of facts.
 

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