Corbyn the communist spy!

I met him on a train once. He was surrounded by slobbering sycophants

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I’ve said this in other topics but my old boss sat next to him on a speed awareness course in South Yorkshire about 5yrs ago. All he talked about was his house in the south of France, apparently. Socialism works well for some, doesn’t it?
 

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That's nice. It didn't happen, no matter how much you want it to be true.

Incidentally, the pigeon tunnel is a very good book.
naw...I don't give a sh1t what happens to Jezza.

But the idea that he is some kind of straight down the line twinkly grandfather Honest John who only has the interest of minimum wage earners (like me) in mind is....just,frankly, insulting.

  • He's a politician.
  • He's a former Trotskyist who tried hard to subvert the plain, decent,honest Labour Party, established to represent people like my grandparents.
  • He was a thrusting young Turk when the Militant Tendency were working hard to implement the Manifesto for a British Revolution.
Source 1
In many respects, Corbyn's personal objectives are fairly indistinguishable from those of Militant. Re-nationalization of the railways and energy companies, confiscatory taxation, price and rent controls, maximum wage, unilateral disarmament; his agenda is about a huge shift of power away from individuals and the private sector and back to the state [2]. His choice of Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell wants to nationalize the banks [3]. The only significant policy difference between Corbyn and Militant is that he is more reserved about which means are justified by the ends, but the ends themselves are largely the same. Militant's current-day guise, The Socialist Party, supported his bid for the leadership and raised the prospect of them rejoining Labour to "form a new party" [4].

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Source 2

Firstly, let me acknowledge that “hard left” isn't defined by precise syntactic rules. It's more defined in terms of what it's not, and a cluster of views around capitalism, anti-imperialism and so on. It's also pejorative. Nobody ever refers to themselves as being on the hard left. Nevertheless I do think it is a useful tool for talking about the modern Labour Party.

Anyway, here are a few:


Good 'ere innit ? :-D
 
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That's nice. It didn't happen, no matter how much you want it to be true.

Incidentally, the pigeon tunnel is a very good book.
Legacy of Spies is very good too, ironically for this conversation.

OK...

So, if we knock out the alleged Czech nonsense; that only leaves support for Violent Irish republicanism and the £20k he took off Press TV then.

How lucky for Jez his press department set the line years ago.

A spokesperson for Corbyn told Business Insider, "We don't comment on historical matters."
Jeremy Corbyn was paid by an Iranian state TV station that was complicit in the forced confession of a tortured journalist

His problem is, quite frankly, his behaviour makes it reasonable to suspect his sympathies would have been with Warsaw Pact intelligence officers. It appears to me to fit a pattern of established behaviour.

I find his denials about as convincing as Trump's on Russia.
 
naw...I don't give a sh1t what happens to Jezza.

But the idea that he is some kind of straight down the line twinkly grandfather Honest John who only has the interest of minimum wage earners (like me) in mind is....just,frankly, insulting.

  • He's a politician.
  • He's a former Trotskyist who tried hard to subvert the plain, decent,honest Labour Party, established to represent people like my grandparents.
  • He was a thrusting young Turk when the Militant Tendency were working hard to implement the Manifesto for a British Revolution.
Source 1
In many respects, Corbyn's personal objectives are fairly indistinguishable from those of Militant. Re-nationalization of the railways and energy companies, confiscatory taxation, price and rent controls, maximum wage, unilateral disarmament; his agenda is about a huge shift of power away from individuals and the private sector and back to the state [2]. His choice of Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell wants to nationalize the banks [3]. The only significant policy difference between Corbyn and Militant is that he is more reserved about which means are justified by the ends, but the ends themselves are largely the same. Militant's current-day guise, The Socialist Party, supported his bid for the leadership and raised the prospect of them rejoining Labour to "form a new party" [4].

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Source 2

Firstly, let me acknowledge that “hard left” isn't defined by precise syntactic rules. It's more defined in terms of what it's not, and a cluster of views around capitalism, anti-imperialism and so on. It's also pejorative. Nobody ever refers to themselves as being on the hard left. Nevertheless I do think it is a useful tool for talking about the modern Labour Party.

Anyway, here are a few:


Good 'ere innit ? :-D

Source 1. From a Limp Dem voter.

Source 2. An embittered Progress type. That said, other than his position on the Falklands I'd agree with the policy positions listed. Feel as insulted as you like. The idea that the Tories are some patriarchal kindly benovolent force for good working in the interests of all is, quite frankly, equally as insulting.
 
Source 1. From a Limp Dem voter.

Source 2. An embittered Progress type. That said, other than his position on the Falklands I'd agree with the policy positions listed. Feel as insulted as you like. The idea that the Tories are some patriarchal kindly benovolent force for good working in the interests of all is, quite frankly, equally as insulting.
I'm certainly not saying they are, but stand aside from you own political views if you can, given his behaviour over the years, his associations and beliefs, if you were the vetting man would you give him a 'pass?'
 
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I'm certainly not saying they are, but stand aside from you own political views if you can, given his behaviour over the years, his associations and beliefs, if you were the vetting man would you give him a 'pass?'
If we are talking about Mr Corbyn then the vetting man has given him a pass. He's a Privy Councillor.
 

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Since the 1920s Labour has had to defend itself against hard line communists seeking to use the party as a means to power.

Sub sole nihil novum - Ecclesiastes 1:9

Source

' Leftwing pressure group Momentum is asking Labour parliamentary contenders to sign a contract that ties them to the “political objectives” set out in the organisation’s constitution to secure its support in upcoming selection battles, the Observer has learned.

Several contenders to be Labour candidates in marginal seats are understood to have signed the contract. The 13-point “political accord for Momentum-backed candidates” asks candidates to “work to ensure the Labour manifesto (subject to future policy development) is fully implemented once Labour are in government”.

Included in the signed contract is the commitment to “revitalise the Labour party by building on the values, energy and enthusiasm of the Jeremy for Leader campaign”. Some Labour MPs are known to be alarmed by the move, following an attempt by Labour activists to unseat the leader of Haringey council last month. Claire Kober fought off a challenge to win reselection in her ward, but it was seen as a warning that Momentum plans to support candidates that back Jeremy Corbyn at all levels of the party.

One Labour MP, who asked to remain anonymous, said: “It reflects a Stalinist approach to politics that Momentum would come up with such a contract for candidates. It has worrying implications for our democracy that there could be MPs in parliament who have signed away their right to independent judgment,” he said.'

Standard political tactic - don't like the message? Attack the messenger. (Sadly , the quote above is from the only historically Left wing broadsheet in the country)

If you have time, always go to a primary source. This makes interesting reading for those with the fortitude:

Momentum constitution – read it in full | LabourList
 
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Whilst you are quoting the used toilet paper of valid information, I dont really care...that labour party have sold themselves to the far left, which ironically serves against their (ex) core voters.

Bringing in subhuman scum from the third world, ensuring that british working class men and women (and their children) are at a disadvantage (unless they are super smart females and/or some mutant gender) is now the labour party manifesto.

Now they have completely lost their way, I wonder who will take that vote? It wont be Corbyn and friends.
Bringing in 'foreign' workers, who can afford to accept lower wages as their home economy is a lot lower than the UK ,is an unfortunate consequence of the EU's free movement of workers rules. In theory it is quite a good 'Socialist' style policy ,allowing citizens free movement to work wherever they wish. The rules though have allowed a subversion to occur, big buisness exploits this by harnessing this large pool of low cost non UK available labour which then drive down UK pay rates.This in turn reduces the largest fixed cost of any buisness ,the end result being a desirable increase in profits but at the expense of the indigenous workforce. This may not bother the buisness operators involved as it increases profits but at the expense of UK workers and the UK economy as most of the spending power of foreign workers ends up back in their home economy, good for the EU maybe but not so much for the UK.
 
It is alleged that Comrade Jezza is making vieled threats against the Media etc, that if and when he becomes Englands Dear Leader, he will crack down on media outlets by creating the Labour Governments own version of 'Pravada Today' paid for, and run by the Labour Party and government agencies. (of course this is fake news, and I just made this up.):)
 
It is alleged that Comrade Jezza is making vieled threats against the right wing Media etc
Edited for accuracy.
"On message" media is safe and generous tax breaks will be given to the faithful.
 

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p.141 of 'Defence of the Realm', the Authorised History of MI5 by Christopher Andrew, pub. Allen Lane, endorsed by a Foreword from the then DG of MI5. 2009.
 
That has to be the winner of the 'No shit Sherlock' award of the week. Still, I'm sure there will be some who think he should be trusted because........?
 
I'm certainly not saying they are, but stand aside from you own political views if you can, given his behaviour over the years, his associations and beliefs, if you were the vetting man would you give him a 'pass?'
I'm not the vetting man. Im a voter. In that, he gets my vote. Especially because of his associations and beliefs.
 

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