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#1
can ANYONE please explain why no two answers to a question are the same when it comes to the TA?
I'm 34, unfit (sat down for most of my working life) and want to join. (now there's a candidate worth fighting for..........)

Anyway, how long from initial contact to...well what comes next?

Rang two units RMP and REME and neither have come back to me.
Went in to the local recruitment office and was asked by a sgt who (looked younger than some cadets) if I was after something for my lad! When I explained to him what I was after....well contempt was not even hidden.

The armed services are not seen as a "first choice" option by school leavers and as this govt is trying to send everyone to uni to dilute the value of any degree to that of a 10m swimming cert, should we not try to assist every enthusiastic person who wants to serve their country?
In '89 most of my school mates tried out for various "local" regiments and most got in and served their time, some are still in and are making careers for themselves but my nephew's generation all want to do "media" or "Davidposhspicefootiebloke" degrees that have no real value!

How come a guy who's 29 can join the regs and serve 20 yrs but a 34 year old who may only do 5 years is past it? The forgein legion take on till 40 for pete's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here endeth the rant Answers/opinions please
 
#3
I'm 31 and joined the TA last year, my unit was very very helpful, and the process ran smoothly, but I understand your comments on the regs, I wanted to join them, but have missed out by a couple of years. Yet the RAF and Navy have a higher upper age limit???
 
#4
Hi Datum,

First. Good drills on your enthusiasm to join the TA.

The guidelines for recruiting staff are age limits are between 17 & 32 Yrs( 34 If ex service). As you are over the age limit and have no mil experience. It is up to you to sell yourself to your local TA unit. Think what does the unit do and what civilian skills can I offer them. I enlisted guys up to 38yrs, with no previous service. Mainly because, the guys had skills that we needed ( bullshit baffles :wink: ) and I had good Officers who would talk to the potential recruits and then write a letter of recomendation for their overage enlistment.

This is where you have to go to your local unit and sell yourself to them. It's them who have to do all the paperwork. Also if they are ignorant or have no interest, please :x POST THE UNIT DETAILS HERE :x . The TA is short in numbers and I'd rather have a guy who is 2yrs overage but keen as a virgin in a brothel, than 2 17yr old mongs.

I wish you luck in your quest


ps. excuse my mongness, it's wine night :D :D
 
#11
I was amazed. From an informal enquiry online to application forms coming (unasked for!) through my letterbox: 3 days. Didn't even have the DVD I requested about the TA yet.

From sending off application forms (after a tennis-match of emails to an from the recruiting office with all my questions) to medical will be 36 days.

That said, I'm not confident of passing the medical (fat, unfit, minor liver problem), so it might all be efficiency amounting to nothing. That said, I am hoping to WOW them with my enthusiasm and qualifications I hope they need. Maybe they'll give me time to get my BPFA score up.

FF.
 
#13
Rockhopperst4 said:
Medical wise we were told to keep quiet about anything thats not in our records!!
At a specialist unit the BPFA is not a pass or fail test.
I am in a specialist unit and i think you will find that a BPFA is a pass and fail test. When i started basic we lost 8 people on the first day because they did not pass, that was a few years ago and it was Grantham, but i don't think it has changed. Now with the new MATT being introduced i believe it is even more of a pass and fail test.
 
#14
At CMSR yes it is pass or fail but not at the selection weekend which is what Friendly fire is talking about i think. He'll probably have a 12 month gap between two to get fit as well!
 
#15
Rockhopperst4 said:
At CMSR yes it is pass or fail but not at the selection weekend which is what Friendly fire is talking about i think. He'll probably have a 12 month gap between two to get fit as well!
I should learn to read post's more carefully I do apologise, he should have plenty of time to get himself sorted then. Is it really about 12 months from the selection weekend until you do your CMSR now. When i did mine I started in July and passed out in January, they seemed to like to get you done as quick as possible
 
#16
I did selection about a month ago now. We got dates through for the rest of our training quite quickly but they were wrong and still haven't been corrected! So we need to do two weekends, then eight days (or 4 weekends) then 15 days. In reality and fitting things around work it could well be getting onto 12 months before the 15 day thing happens.
I'm starting to get a bit fed up with it to be honest!
 
#17
Can you still train with your unit or do have to wait until you have passed basic. My unit used to be like this but the passed couple of years they have started to get the new guys down so they don't start getting fed up with the wait and end up p!ssing off some where else.
 
#18
Rockhopperst4 said:
At CMSR yes it is pass or fail but not at the selection weekend which is what Friendly fire is talking about i think. He'll probably have a 12 month gap between two to get fit as well!
That was what I was talking about, and I will need the time to get fit enough. Shouldn't be too much of an issue though - looks like it just needs application. I have two legs to run with, a heart and lungs to keep them going. Just need to get them all used to doing it a bit quicker, that's all.

Oh, and when the gut goes I should be able to do proper sit ups rather than just rolling over the tyre around my midriff! Press ups will be easier as well as I'll have less weight to push up...

I'm not sure as a TA RAMC applicant if we have the same selection process, though. I am going to a medical soon and am attested and signed on then and there if the medical is passed. Then do two weekends (Oct and Jan), and then go to RCB. Then two weeks at Sandhurst and two weeks at York. Whole thing looks like it takes nearly a year, but only because there are several steps involved and, (hopefully) being TA, I will only be able to commit weekends to the process.

Somewhere before Sandhurst, it seems as PQOs we get our commission, which I find slightly weird as I thought that's what you went to Sandhurst for, but we are "demoted" (as it were) from Capt back to O/Cdt while we are there.

At least that's as much of the process as I have been able to glean from my correspondence with my recruiting unit.

FF.
 
#19
Monster said:
Can you still train with your unit or do have to wait until you have passed basic. My unit used to be like this but the passed couple of years they have started to get the new guys down so they don't start getting fed up with the wait and end up p!ssing off some where else.
Nope. i think mainly because we are a specialist unit and the commitment is only 19 days a year of which 15 are at camp. Probably some inurance issues as well!
 
#20
Rockhopperst4 said:
Monster said:
Can you still train with your unit or do have to wait until you have passed basic. My unit used to be like this but the passed couple of years they have started to get the new guys down so they don't start getting fed up with the wait and end up p!ssing off some where else.
Nope. i think mainly because we are a specialist unit and the commitment is only 19 days a year of which 15 are at camp. Probably some inurance issues as well!
That's what i am saying I am in a specialist unit with a 19 day commitment, but a lot of people do a lot more, on average I do about 50 days a year. We now have a squadron for people starting basic and non trade trained, so they don't get fed up with waiting around not doing anything and not feeling part of anything.
 

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