Continuation of Service to be extended.

Discussion in 'Strategic Defence & Spending Review (SDSR)' started by Outstanding, Nov 24, 2010.

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  1. SDSR is considering the cost saving that can be achieved by continuity of service and by not needing to recuit and train so many soldiers. The extension of service by 10 / 15 years to fifty or fifty five would match the time required to largely re-balance the books and also match the demographic and projected recruiting forecasts.

    What though would the effect be in Infantry Units of much older SNCOs/WOs and a general slowing of promtion combined with an aging soldier population.

    It may therefore make sense to establish special rules for Infantry/Teeth arm uints, but is that fair on individuals?
  2. Too many questions with no actual idea of why it makes any real sense. We could end up with a dads army!!
  3. I thought VEng was being stopped? Can you give VEng to one set of guys but make another x thousand redundant?
  4. Saying that you might get a fitter Army as most of us over 40s are still fitter than the new lads coming through the door, it is embarrassing when your beating 20 year olds by a distance on does take longer to recover though (grabs oxygen mask).

    Pros and cons to both arguements though with Youth against experience.
  5. Sounds like there are to many SDSR based CO’s essay questions flying around and being researched on ARRSE at the moment ^_~
  6. Brotherton Lad

    Brotherton Lad LE Reviewer

    It's an attractive fix, but only temporarily because it casts a long forward shadow.

    I had the same problem in the 90s with the Infantry cross country team, most of the squad were in their 30s and still very good, but eventually they have to be put out to grass and fresh blood brought in. For a start, who's going to make the tea?
  7. Thats ok already been thought of, they will be recruiting 1000 Juniors a year who will specialise in NATO coffees.
  8. Brotherton Lad

    Brotherton Lad LE Reviewer

    Job's a good 'un. Full steam ahead then, milk, no sugar, thanks.
  9. By the CO's who are looking to set them!!
  10. Male & female ???
  11. Brotherton Lad

    Brotherton Lad LE Reviewer

    Black or white? With or without?
    So many choices.
  12. I hope they are going to offer decaff, my blood-pressure can't stand the real stuff any more. :)
  13. Brotherton Lad

    Brotherton Lad LE Reviewer

    That's the problem with these quick fixes, they always bring unintended consequences and hidden costs. My back of fag packet calculations, Staff Officers' Handbook fold out edition, tell me that 1000 juniors will not be enough and additional Starbuck instructors, on an outrageously expensive PFI contract for 30 years, will be required.
  14. The order of magnitude savings that could accrue simply by extending all Teeth arm SNCOs to just 45 years of age is really amazing!
  15. Brotherton Lad

    Brotherton Lad LE Reviewer

    Oh, I don't doubt it. People are healthier these days and mid 40s is not old. You only have to look at fell races where often most of the top 20 are over 40.

    It's over a decade since I toiled in manning, still in the scout hut and Morgan O' still had most of his hair.

    Nevertheless, my flippancy over the brews may hide a grain of truth. I assume the big savings are for the first 3 years and then level off. At this point the recruiting taps have to be turned back on, this took an age in the mid 90s after the peace dividend following the fall of the Wall. I imagine also the extension would be optional for individuals and, whilst, I would expect it to be popular, sometimes people do not react to a new paradigm in the obvious way. Presumably, too, there's an increase in pension costs and a knock on effect on those a few years behind who now enter 'dead men's shoes' territory.