Contact with the Media and Communicating in Public.

#1
The original DIN has been superseded , and is now 2008DIN03_020 released November 2008

I can't copy and paste it here as it's 'Not to be communicated to anyone outside HM Service without authority' . It is posted to remind journalists who like to trawl for stories of the restrictions on serving personnel talking to the media. A few of whom have appeared here over recent weeks.

Google 2008DIN03_020

Can't find a copy of 2007 to compare it with at the moment. Is there any difference to the original?
 
#2
Thanks, PTP. At a brief glance I guess the permissive reference to HCDC and Number Ten petitions might be new. HCDC were not pleased when there were suggestions last year that the DIN applied to their consultations.

I will be offline today but will have a proper look this evening and pick up any points not already covered by others.
 
#6
I do love the 'Not to be communicated to anyone outside HM Service without authority' when it is then posted on the mod.uk site which is easily accessed by a google search.

As I'm not serving anymore and it seems to be a public access document available via the internet to all who want it the link to the current version is below.

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/6F94F9BE-76DD-4487-BEAA-C1F8CCD3EFDE/0/2008DIN03_020.pdf

or the google version

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=2008DIN03_020&meta=

S_R
 
#7
According to the Telegraph

Posting information on the internet through blogging, joining in forum discussions or online multiplayer games is now considered "public disclosure of information".

There are concerns that British Army personnel may inadvertently disclose confidential information.

However, the move has angered troops who regularly use networking sites to keep in touch with family and friends.

An NCO in Afghanistan told The Sun: "The fun police have taken over. I can't talk to my wife and kids or even play Call of Duty 5. Do they really think we're going to give away secrets?"

Another soldier said: "It's the most offensive thing I've ever heard. We're prepared to die for the country and are treated like children.

"I am going to ignore it. A lot of the lads are going to do the same."

Even officers are not exempt from the rule.

Generals who wish to talk with the media is now advised to ask permission of a Government minister.

It is also believed that Ministry of Defence officials want to stop criticism of defence policy on military chat forums like the Army Rumour Service.

The order, titled Contact With The Media and Communicating In Public, was issued on February 4.

British Armed Forces Federation spokesman Adrian Weale told The Sun: "You can't treat service personnel like children. They are in the front-line of the war against terrorism but the MoD doesn't trust them to behave responsibly online."

However, an MoD spokesman said the guidelines were not an outright ban.

He said: "Of course soldiers are allowed to go on Facebook and contribute to blogs.

"But we need to ensure sensitive information is not inadvertently placed in the public domain. A routine instruction has merely been refreshed and reissued."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencea...oldiers-banned-from-MySpace-and-Facebook.html
 
#8
In the vain hope of stopping lots of outrage, this instruction was done to death last year when it was first issued. Once people looked into it, most of the outrage was found to be bollocks - mainly because the people complaining about it hadn't actually read it and preffered to believe "Newton-Dungs" account over fact.

As its a document reviewed anually, its just been reissued so here we go again with leaking it to the press and trying to build up an outrage bandwagon.
 
#9
A Non-story, we always note Opsec and Persac on here and when we make a mistake the MOD step in. However Facebook is rife with stuff that should not be there so it is right to remind everyone of their duties.
 

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#10
Thought that DIN was particularly old news?
 
#11
It's to stop the duty idiot doing something stupid or what journos could deem 'offensive.' For example a soldier who has uniform as his profile picture listing killing chogies, paddies or terry as 'interests' or 'favourite activities' especially as Harry has been in the Media calling his mate a paki.
 
#12
Security aside, I know of a couple of marriages wrecked by people on tour catching up with old school crushes on facebook and coming home and leaving their family and kids after 10-15 years. It's a double edged sword!
 
#13
milsum said:
Security aside, I know of a couple of marriages wrecked by people on tour catching up with old school crushes on facebook and coming home and leaving their family and kids after 10-15 years. It's a double edged sword!
But that has nothing to do with Facebook.

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#14
I can never work out what the Sun's up to with their reporting. They do good stuff in promoting H4H etc and then always print the shite. I know it's all about balanced reporting and everything. The facebook article gets half a page and the death of 3 Sigs blokes in an RTC gets a squashed up little paragraph.
 
#15
milsum said:
Security aside, I know of a couple of marriages wrecked by people on tour catching up with old school crushes on facebook and coming home and leaving their family and kids after 10-15 years. It's a double edged sword!
Equally in my time I knew of marriages that ended because of lads meeting girls in the pub whilst away on courses etc, so by your reckoning we need to ban all social contact completely incase it breaks up a marriage.
 
#16
Bonzo_Dog said:
According to the Telegraph


"But we need to ensure sensitive information is not inadvertently placed in the public domain. A routine instruction has merely been refreshed and reissued."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencea...oldiers-banned-from-MySpace-and-Facebook.html
A bit like civil servants leaving sensitive info on trains perhaps?

The MOD would be well advised to have a look on here to see the opinions on their policies from those at the sharp end. I love the Armed Forces but the MOD can go swivel, bunch of cnuts.
 
#17
maxi_77 said:
milsum said:
Security aside, I know of a couple of marriages wrecked by people on tour catching up with old school crushes on facebook and coming home and leaving their family and kids after 10-15 years. It's a double edged sword!
Equally in my time I knew of marriages that ended because of lads meeting girls in the pub whilst away on courses etc, so by your reckoning we need to ban all social contact completely incase it breaks up a marriage.
I don't beleive the topic of "social networking sites affecting marriages" is exclusive to the Armed Forces though is it?
 
#18
maxi_77 said:
milsum said:
Security aside, I know of a couple of marriages wrecked by people on tour catching up with old school crushes on facebook and coming home and leaving their family and kids after 10-15 years. It's a double edged sword!
Equally in my time I knew of marriages that ended because of lads meeting girls in the pub whilst away on courses etc, so by your reckoning we need to ban all social contact completely incase it breaks up a marriage.
IMHO, I think the human brain hasn't evolved to cope with the social and cultural revolution of things like facebook, and it's rather psychologically unnatural. The natural order for things has always been people coming into lives and then you move on and leave, and it has never been so easy to find people from your past and represent one's self how one pleases.

I'm not being a philistine, I'm on there, but in both cases the chaps in question lasted 6 months on the outside. Very different from chance meetings in the pub, where tbh if you're looking at that point then the marriage is probably already in serious trouble.
 
#19
#20
Bit of a non story really, I cant think of many civvy jobs that will let you go on facebook and bebo etc during company time.....and since soldiers are always on duty 8O
 
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