Conservatives plan police reserve force

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  1. Conservatives plan police 'reserve force'
    Telegraph
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    Another gimmick?

    As it's compared to the TA,and as an aside,would you consider serving in the TA if it weren't paid?
     
  2. Good idea. I've never understood why police don't pay the Specials. They are, after all, the police version of the TA etc. They take many of the same risks, so they should be properly compensated.
     
  3. Sixty

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    Not much experience of the TA then R_T?
     
  4. The reasons for such a force have been well thought out as denoted by the statement:

    Personnally i would rather have someone with a background in Forensics, Crime Scene Investigation or explosives, maybe just me being picky.
     
  5. You're right,that question wasn't very well explained. Let me re-phrase,were one only paid whilst mobilised/for out of expense items associated with training (such as milleage) would there still be the same appetite to serve?

    I'm curious as to if paying the specials, (and re branding),making them more like the TA,would have the desired effect.
     
  6. Sixty

    Sixty LE Moderator Book Reviewer
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    To be fair I knew exactly what you meant but couldn't resist the dig at the TA's track record of paying people on time :D

    To the question: Can only speak for myself but I certainly would not have been put off from joining as I don't do it for the money, negligible as it is. However across the board I'd think you'd see a reduction, especially from those who only show for the bounty.
     
  7. I know TA lads who often work unpaid and uncompensated to get the job done, on top of what they are paid to do. Sort of unpaid overtime.

    Hmm. Let us think back to the Ian Huntley saga. Who was it that confirmed that the two girls were in his house at some point and that their mobile phone had "died" in his house?

    Was it an Police Officer trained in

    a. Forensics
    b.CSI
    c. explosives

    or was it

    d. an IT/Comms specialist with knowledge of the Celluar network?

    This is the 21stC. Technology is here, and we need people who understand just like they needed people who understood bloods and fibres for forensics years ago.

    Go to the peodo investigations. More geeks than you can shake a stick at, often not full police offiers.
     
  8. Seems a better idea than PCSOs.
     
  9. Chocolate Frog:

    There are very few people out there who have the specialist level required to be of use and those that are on plenty of cash so would be unlikely to want a few extra beens for being a part time copper.

    Also such investigations employ GCHQ and the intelligence services.

    My point - the original piece about the requirement for TA style coppers is a short sighted, ill researched and random written piece of sh1te.
     
  10. Good idea, should include police cadets as well.

    Watch Labour steal the idea and introduce the formation of a police reserve sometime next year.
     
  11. Random as in me or random as in the ST article?
     
  12. A police officer trained in Forensics, CSI or explosives?
     
  13. They don't need to know the full ins and outs of the technology. Just that it is there.

    In reality, certainly for phone masts, it is usually the phone companies themselves that provide the info. To have a Police trained person who can understand the full ins and outs can't be bad.

    Otherwise you wouldn't have explosive trained police.

    Part Time Specials have often provided extra feet on the ground, something many people want back - not cameras for example. PCSOs are taking money out of the system, and not providing much in return. Specials have long not taken money, but given much.

    The idea of paying Specials, who are fully trained Police anyway, instead of the ham strung pCSO is surely the way forward.

    In the same way the Army benefits from teh TA bringing additional skill sets to play, so will the police.
     
  14. I had a friend who was a Special, she would work 9-5 in the office then don the uniform on a Friday night and relax by arresting chavs. i think its a great idea.

    I joined the TA for the challenge and to serve my country, money did not come into it (buy it does help go towards buying kit).