Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

That’s because it is, whatever your view of Magic Grandpa (and mine is similar to most posters on here) , it is whataboutery.
No it's not. Whataboutery would be if people criticised BoJo over Covid, and people said that his perceived poor performance was justified due to Corbyn's perceived poor performance over antisemitism, or his poor performance in the election campaign. What is being asked is, is BoJo's performance any worse than the performance we would have had from any other person in his place, and specifically from the only other person who could feasibly have been PM at the start of 2020? That's not whataboutery, that's a direct and justifiable comparison of the realistic alternative.
 
The bigger shock was finding out he received an MBE in 2018 for ‘services to Grime Music’! Nothing like a hypocritical Socialist rapper eh?
The immediate problem I see is trying to describe grime as music. What convoluted virtue signalling thought process could come up with awarding a screaming socialist a decoration from something he hates, placing him among those he despises, for something that bears no relation to its description?
 
I get the idea that the EHRC was seen as on side for a very long time, and the free rein labour were given as something to which they were entitled. Unfortunately for them, they took the piss and abused that entitlement to have a go at those they saw as enemies of their socialist dreams, resulting in their current woes.

That the EHRC is now seen as the enemy is deliciously ironic.
 

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Momentum are going to town saying the the EHRC has no BAME on the committee, Muslims have been sacked, the committee are all Torys. Clearly this is not going to go well for Labour, they are trying to sow the seeds of doubt and trying to discredit all those involved. Classic left moves in all walks of life, do they never learn.

Only one person did this Corbyn.
 
Only one person did this Corbyn.
He was present but not involved because there was a whole team behind him desperately seeking leadership but left to their own devices as has been clearly demonstrated by Labours own report into what was going on.
 

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Len McCluskey doing a Jimmy Hoffa?


Will Len disappear one day - foundations for HS2? ;)
 
Len McCluskey doing a Jimmy Hoffa?


Will Len disappear one day - foundations for HS2? ;)
From the article:

Mr McCluskey, a supporter of Mr Corbyn, has criticised the accompanying payout, telling the Observer: "It's an abuse of members' money. A lot of it is Unite's money and I'm already being asked all kinds of questions by my executive.

Bloody hilarious. It's not like McClusky has form for wasting Unite's money on doomed court cases is it?


Unite rejected an offer from Turley to settle. If it had accepted, the case would have finished and the costs capped. As it is, Unite faces paying its own costs of £600,000 or more. The insurers that Turley hired to avoid the danger of bankruptcy, can claim another £300,000 from Unite.
This case is all too reminiscent of another recent legal cock-up and massive waste of Unite members’ money: the notorious Sally Nailard affair (which Shiraz covered here, here and here.


If I was paying subs into the Unite coffers I think I might want a refund!
 
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From the article:

Mr McCluskey, a supporter of Mr Corbyn, has criticised the accompanying payout, telling the Observer: "It's an abuse of members' money. A lot of it is Unite's money and I'm already being asked all kinds of questions by my executive.

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If Len wants to look at it that way, then it isn't Unite's money either, it's the members' money.
 
If Len wants to look at it that way, then it isn't Unite's money either, it's the members' money.
Yes but Len is Unite. There's no need for the members to worry themselves over complicated union matters.
Uncle Len will see them right. After all, some are more equal than others.
 
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If I was paying subs into the Unite coffers I think I might want a refund!
Unite is one of the recognised unions at my work. I refuse to join them because of McCluskey and his cronies, and have had some quite intense discussions with colleagues who are Unite members. I think am slowly opening their eyes as to the exact nature of the leadership of their organisation, but I don't suppose it'll do any good.
 

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Yes but Len is Unite. There's no need for the members to worry themselves over complicated union matters.
Uncle Len will see them right. After all, some are more equal than others.
Not just financial matters. He can organise /fix elections too
 

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BBC are reporting that Liam Fox's email was hacked probably by the usual suspects. This info was passed eventually to JC who didn't bother to read it before waving it in front of the press.

A criminal inquiry into the leaking of the documents is underway.

A spokesman for the National Crime Agency confirmed it was leading the investigation, but added he could not comment further.
It is very unlikely that JC will have his collar felt but others may be looking over their shoulder wondering if they are going to be the one looking for a chair when the music stops.
 
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