Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

BuggerAll

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
I actually think that you are missing a key tenet of Corbyn's approach. You seem to imagine that he jumps on each new madcap bandwagon as it comes along by chance, then champions its cause in the parlours of Islington, because he's a bit dippy. I believe it is far more pernicious than that. My own thought is that he has his people out spotting disruptive causes with potential so that they can be exploited for their diversionary value in the great struggle. There are desired qualities, such as upsetting the status quo, but there are those that are essential, such as causing division and stoking hatred.

Corbyn's job in all this is to provide protection for the internationalist cause by providing bandwidth-consuming distraction while the real work is being done elsewhere. He knows all too well that groups like Antifa, SWP, Momentum and CPGB are more than capable of operating effectively in the shadows (Hijacking seemingly 'woke' and 'worthy' causes for their own agenda) while he keeps the public gaze fixed on the public face of domestic arguments.

Corbyn is part of a huge international team, not the leader or agenda setter.
I don’t think he is/was part of the team. He was a useful idiot.
 
I actually think that you are missing a key tenet of Corbyn's approach. You seem to imagine that he jumps on each new madcap bandwagon as it comes along by chance, then champions its cause in the parlours of Islington, because he's a bit dippy. I believe it is far more pernicious than that. My own thought is that he has his people out spotting disruptive causes with potential so that they can be exploited for their diversionary value in the great struggle. There are desired qualities, such as upsetting the status quo, but there are those that are essential, such as causing division and stoking hatred.

Corbyn's job in all this is to provide protection for the internationalist cause by providing bandwidth-consuming distraction while the real work is being done elsewhere. He knows all too well that groups like Antifa, SWP, Momentum and CPGB are more than capable of operating effectively in the shadows (Hijacking seemingly 'woke' and 'worthy' causes for their own agenda) while he keeps the public gaze fixed on the public face of domestic arguments.

Corbyn is part of a huge international team, not the leader or agenda setter.
It wouldn't surprise me if he was a stooge for the Russia, China, Iran Axis. Neither would it surprise me if he was just a useful idiot.
 

BuggerAll

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
It looks that way, but it is difficult to explain the months he went missing in S. America then re-appearing with new socialist vigour.
A pity he became unmissing.
 
A pity he became unmissing.
Not really. He has done immense damage to the labour party that's going to take years to recover from. Assuming they can ever come back to what they were, instead of a party of minorities encouraging division.
 

BuggerAll

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Not really. He has done immense damage to the labour party that's going to take years to recover from. Assuming they can ever come back to what they were, instead of a party of minorities encouraging division.
You make a compelling argument.
 

philc

LE
So the report has been handed over, a little reminder of Corbyn being grilloed over his failure and Labours to deal with antisemitism, which as we all know was to protect him for if they followed the recommendations and rules of the Labour Party would of seen him at best suspended.

 

Helm

MIA
Moderator
Book Reviewer
So the report has been handed over, a little reminder of Corbyn being grilloed over his failure and Labours to deal with antisemitism, which as we all know was to protect him for if they followed the recommendations and rules of the Labour Party would of seen him at best suspended.

Not a peep on the BBC about it, colour me shocked.
 

ACAB

LE
So the report has been handed over, a little reminder of Corbyn being grilloed over his failure and Labours to deal with antisemitism, which as we all know was to protect him for if they followed the recommendations and rules of the Labour Party would of seen him at best suspended.

Chakrabati delivered a whitewash and was rewarded with a place in the HoL.
 
But you can promise to. ;-)
In which case he’s doesn’t realise that by pleasing the Jewish lobby he’s pissing off the MENA lobby. If that’s all Labour have in their shot locker, the could be closing shop next election.
After all what have they achieve in the last 20 years.
Lost Scotland, pissed off England, lost the main working argument because it No longer exists. All we have is extremist lobbies. That’s really going to sway the electorate isn’t it?
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
In which case he’s doesn’t realise that by pleasing the Jewish lobby he’s pissing off the MENA lobby. If that’s all Labour have in their shot locker, the could be closing shop next election.
After all what have they achieve in the last 20 years.
Lost Scotland, pissed off England, lost the main working argument because it No longer exists. All we have is extremist lobbies. That’s really going to sway the electorate isn’t it?
Shh. Don't go shining a light on the magic.
 

philc

LE
Understandable why Corbyn lost if this is quality of advisors, Tory has book on Hitler, must be Nazi, what a clown.



 

BuggerAll

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Understandable why Corbyn lost if this is quality of advisors, Tory has book on Hitler, must be Nazi, what a clown.



The comments following it are mildly amusing. He’s clearly an utter cock but I guess ‘former advisor to Jeremy Corbyn’ woyld give you a clue.

Imagine having that on your CV. It wouldn’t pass the sift of any fourth rate organisation. Probably destined for the Guardian or a union. I would have suggested academia but in our increasingly straightened times freebies at uni are going to be harder to come by.
 
The comments following it are mildly amusing. He’s clearly an utter cock but I guess ‘former advisor to Jeremy Corbyn’ woyld give you a clue.

Imagine having that on your CV. It wouldn’t pass the sift of any fourth rate organisation. Probably destined for the Guardian or a union. I would have suggested academia but in our increasingly straightened times freebies at uni are going to be harder to come by.
Also lefti charaties (in fact most charaties even National Trust has been Infeltrated) are out as income has dried up over the lock down.
 

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