Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

Just doing a scan of the various online news and comment sites, I think I've counted about four current - ie today's or very recent - articles Advising the Government on What It Should Be Doing. More than anything else, it shows just how pointless much of these sites really are; they won't be listened to by The Government, they probably raise the stress levels of their readers beyond what the our NHS would consider wise, and they're mostly probably horribly wrong. Maybe we should just bin most of them and stick with the Times.
Oh, and the Telegraph. And Guido. And Spiked. Breitbart? mmmm...
The Times is my sole source of news information at the moment (and Arrse, obviously)
 
Is it just me that everytime I see the expression "fragrant Dianne" I immediately think of the aroma of chip fat, BO, piss and despair?
And yams
 
I wonder how many people read this sort of trash and think to themselves; "No, it won't be Boris and his Front Bench who will be thrown outafter the Plague, it will be fools like this writer". This crisis will ground more than a few of the self-obsessed clowns who have made their fortunes with tales of their self-obsession, and whose Victimhood is suddenly seen to be nothing more than unjustifiable self-pity.
“Hmmm. You’re struggling with whether to Arthur or Martha today? I’m wondering if I’m going to have a job next week and if my Nan is going to see another sunrise”.

Top of the list of people that would be feeling pretty stupid right now, if of course they had one iota of self awareness would be one Owen Jones. Or is it Bronwyn?
 
He got more votes than Blair did when he won in 2005, if Boris had fucked it up or never won the leadership contest who knows if magic grandpa could have won.
I'm still not seeing it.

The only thing Labour has any skill at is internecine battle: not only with regard to policy but on a personal level.

You mention 2005-by 2007, Blair was history at the end of the 2 year tussle with Brown stamping his feet demanding his go at the levers.

He failed. and was not liked.

Cometh the day, cometh the Milliband. A joke looking for a punchline. His period of Leadership should really be looked at as a 5-year interregnum: and all the while, the Communists/Militant/Momentum were plotting and planning.

Sure, JC won a substantial vote - but, yet again, it was a vote taken within a warm and safe bubble. And then he was flattered by opposing a fractured and squabbling Tory party burdened by a weak leadership. And all the while, much of this was contained within the Metropolitan bubble, reinforced by 'social media' circle jerks.

Nah: The Dear Leader didn't have a cat's chance at No 10.
 

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I wonder how many people read this sort of trash and think to themselves; "No, it won't be Boris and his Front Bench who will be thrown outafter the Plague, it will be fools like this writer". This crisis will ground more than a few of the self-obsessed clowns who have made their fortunes with tales of their self-obsession, and whose Victimhood is suddenly seen to be nothing more than unjustifiable self-pity.
The thing is it is not just the vile Maguire that is pumping this pish out. It seems to be the current message from Labour HQ and all sorts of 'commentators are coming out with variations of this message.

Labour know they have been caught on the hop (again) and that Boris and his Cabinet have done a great job in very muddy waters where decisions were being made on unprecedented issues - but with scientific advice behind them.

Initially the stance of Labour was "We are all in this together and the government are doing a good job." That has obviously had the Momentum goons in a fury and the message has rapidly changed to this rubbish coming from an ineffectual and failing Party. I hope the new Labour leader will get a grip of this crap and stop it returning to a message of we are here to help the country not score very cheap political points.
 
I'm still not seeing it.

The only thing Labour has any skill at is internecine battle: not only with regard to policy but on a personal level.

You mention 2005-by 2007, Blair was history at the end of the 2 year tussle with Brown stamping his feet demanding his go at the levers.

He failed. and was not liked.

Cometh the day, cometh the Milliband. A joke looking for a punchline. His period of Leadership should really be looked at as a 5-year interregnum: and all the while, the Communists/Militant/Momentum were plotting and planning.

Sure, JC won a substantial vote - but, yet again, it was a vote taken within a warm and safe bubble. And then he was flattered by opposing a fractured and squabbling Tory party burdened by a weak leadership. And all the while, much of this was contained within the Metropolitan bubble, reinforced by 'social media' circle jerks.

Nah: The Dear Leader didn't have a cat's chance at No 10.
Blair was a **** and wasn't liked but he still won the election with less votes than magic grandpa.

10 million+ people thought he was fit for office.

I reckon if Boris hadn't had won the leadership the election would have been much closer.
 
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Anyhoo, time for this thread to close and a new one under the heading

"Keir/Lisa/Becky to the fore - wither (or whither) the Labour/Momentum Party?"
 
Blair was a **** and wasn't liked but he still won the election with less votes than magic grandpa.

10 million+ people thought he was fit for office.

I reckon is Boris hadn't had won the leadership the election would have been much closer.
Closer? Probably.

. . . but I'm still not seeing JC getting the call from Betty to pop round for a cup of weak Darjeeling and an invitation to be First Lord of the Treasury.
 
Forgot to add.
Ash Sarkar, the wobbly headed, hand waving buffoon that appears on QT has given a warning that Boris’s current very high approval rate could be just what the Labour party would want, as it could be the time for Labour to get rid of Boris.
She cited Winston Churchill’s approval rating just before he was voted out.
But, and to prove she knows her history, she did mention that the current corona situation isn’t the same as WW2!
Why does the MSM indulge that little racist harpy?
 
Closer? Probably.

. . . but I'm still not seeing JC getting the call from Betty to pop round for a cup of weak Darjeeling and an invitation to be First Lord of the Treasury.
Depends who the Conservatives had as a leader, someone running on a pro EU ticket would have fucked it for them.
 
Anyhoo, time for this thread to close and a new one under the heading

"Keir/Lisa/Becky to the fore - wither (or whither) the Labour/Momentum Party?"
Let's see whether he's going to linger around in any capacity or whether the new leader really will consign him to ignominy.
It's going to be interesting seeing if he resorts to his M.O of being the rebel.
 

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Why does the MSM indulge that little racist harpy?
Well she is brown and we all know ethnic minorities cannot be racist. And she is above average physical attractiveness so photogenic on the tellybox. And her opinions seem like radical and far reaching versions of those prevalent in the metropolitan media bubble.

The fact that she IS a racist and fails to recognise that the pursuit of Marxism was the second biggest killer of human beings in the 20th century are probably considered irrelevant. Which says terrible things about the media in general...
 

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I wonder how many people read this sort of trash and think to themselves; "No, it won't be Boris and his Front Bench who will be thrown outafter the Plague, it will be fools like this writer". This crisis will ground more than a few of the self-obsessed clowns who have made their fortunes with tales of their self-obsession, and whose Victimhood is suddenly seen to be nothing more than unjustifiable self-pity.
Yet the Mirror is one of the many papers that would berate the government for not following the scientific advice, if it could.

According to today's Times it was the scientific advice that played down the threat (right-hand column)...

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Depends who the Conservatives had as a leader, someone running on a pro EU ticket would have fucked it for them.
True: but, by then, the misery that was the Brexit 'debate' had reached critical mass-a state of affairs that the Tories recognised (finally) before Labour.

The swell of public disenchantment could not remain unheard, no matter how much our betters tried to massage it.

The country was pig-sick of the whole sorry mess. Labour (again, surrounded by it's own Solidarity and Socialism forcefield), could see none of this. Their political myopia was truly astonishing.
 
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Let's see whether he's going to linger around in any capacity or whether the new leader really will consign him to ignominy.
It's going to be interesting seeing if he resorts to his M.O of being the rebel.
I hope so, watching the final implosion of the Labour Party would make this covid-19 isolation a bit better.
 

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