Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

I think the argument that Jews encourage mass migration to make them feel safe is quite fallacious. Firstly Majority of immigrants don't necessarily come from countries with a history of protecting Jewry. Secondly, they have no control over who turns up. If they did, guess who they'd clamp down on ? . Inviting those with a chip on their shoulder towards Jews isn't really what they would do. This smacks of the Jew is behind everything stuff that was around in the 30's.
Precisely. "Hello, I'm Jewish. Let us support your pressure group that intends to bring in immigrants from lands that have waged war against Israel and have a vitriolic hatred for Jews. Let us encourage their immigration in sufficiently large numbers that political parties seek their approval. I will feel much safer."
 
Both our points are true in every word. I should probably have added "in the UK" to my post for adequate clarity and focus though.
I'm not quite sure when anti-semitism against British Jews went away or was that deeply buried. It was certainly prevalent in the late 60s to early 70s - several of my school friends were Jewish, as were some of my neighbours, and they still found obstacles of varying (often unwritten) kinds being put in their way. Being Jewish wasn't that popular even in the 6th form. One of our *very* prestigious courses refused to let people join the club if they were Jewish - didn't need the money and didn't need that sort.

When I went to Uni in the mid 70s, I felt there was slightly more positive feeling towards Jews because of their repeated military successes in Israel and because most people were anti the far left and, consequently, their pro-Soviet and Arab causes. Perhaps the World at War series had some ameliorating effect as well. But it was still there.

 

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You are truly a weirdo. 117 messages in the past 25 hours.

Get a life.
Only in their latest avatar.........they have been here before.
 

Oyibo

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Yet here you are..?
I don't know if you're a sock or a brand new poster, I suspect the former, but either way you're a permasending prick spouting typical left wing bollox that I'm not in the slightest bit interested in reading so onto ignore you go.
 
I'm not quite sure when anti-semitism against British Jews went away or was that deeply buried. It was certainly prevalent in the late 60s to early 70s - several of my school friends were Jewish, as were some of my neighbours, and they still found obstacles of varying (often unwritten) kinds being put in their way. Being Jewish wasn't that popular even in the 6th form. One of our *very* prestigious courses refused to let people join the club if they were Jewish - didn't need the money and didn't need that sort.

When I went to Uni in the mid 70s, I felt there was slightly more positive feeling towards Jews because of their repeated military successes in Israel and because most people were anti the far left and, consequently, their pro-Soviet and Arab causes. Perhaps the World at War series had some ameliorating effect as well. But it was still there.

I don't remember any anti-semitism from the 60's. 70's or 80's. I do however vividly remember racism against Pakistani's or anyone that looked like one and the Chinese. Mind you Burnley was getting flooded with them at the time!
 
I don't remember any anti-semitism from the 60's. 70's or 80's. I do however vividly remember racism against Pakistani's or anyone that looked like one and the Chinese. Mind you Burnley was getting flooded with them at the time!
I probably dealt with a better class of racist than you (sniff).

One particular member of my family used to rail off against Pakis, Darkies and the like (yet thought very highly of, and got on with, his very Indian doctor). His impressions had been formed in South Africa and India during his training and operational tours as a pilot, when he was just a teenager ("always had to watch your pockets", "fine individually, bad as a group", etc). But he was, apart from the odd bit of normal-for-the-times racism, a very nice bloke.

Maybe it's because I had so many Jewish friends (brainy kids tend to stick together ;-) ) that I was aware of the anti-semitism, otherwise I suspect I'd be just as oblivious to it as most were. Indeed, in my innocence I used to think the words "Jewish" as in "Kike" and "jooish" as in "Tight Scot" were two completely unrelated words until my mate Manny put me right.

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Stalin and Trotsky one presumes
OK so Corbyn is incapable of making decisions and they're going to give the post to 2 people who will, of course, be in absolute agreement on everything and will find decision making very simple. Right.
 
Plenty of European countries have nationalised rail.
That doesn't make them Socialist.
BTW I would agree with nationalising the railways if our gvmt and unions could be trusted.
France’s SNCF is nationalised. It is inefficient, highly subsidised by the taxpayer and its personnel have extremely extravagant employment perks, terms and conditions. These they regularly increase by holding the country to hostage by strikes led by their Communist trades union.
 
........... I have been quite involved with the SWP / Momentum in the past.
Pulling their strings on behalf of your employers perchance?
 
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I have been reading Scott Adam's book The Dilbert Future this morning and was struck by one paragraph, relating to how the news is reported, which said:

"Social problems are reported as statistics that rise and fall for no apparent reason. The only fun part is watching politicians trying to distribute blame without actually using the phrase, "I sure hope you voters are as dumb as you look!".

Well, a whole bunch of Labour voters now realise that is just how some of their MPs think of them. I will be interested to see how Labour apportions the blame if they are trashed in the election - perhaps they can blame it on the "wrong" sort of voters...

On a personal note I was dreading the election campaign, the endless lies, finger pointing and talking heads going on and on ad nauseum but I now find myself quite enjoying the spectacle of the slow motion train crash that is the Labour Party :)
 
I have been reading Scott Adam's book The Dilbert Future this morning and was struck by one paragraph, relating to how the news is reported, which said:

"Social problems are reported as statistics that rise and fall for no apparent reason. The only fun part is watching politicians trying to distribute blame without actually using the phrase, "I sure hope you voters are as dumb as you look!".

Well, a whole bunch of Labour voters now realise that is just how some of their MPs think of them. I will be interested to see how Labour apportions the blame if they are trashed in the election - perhaps they can blame it on the "wrong" sort of voters...

On a personal note I was dreading the election campaign, the endless lies, finger pointing and talking heads going on and on ad nauseum but I now find myself quite enjoying the spectacle of the slow motion train crash that is the Labour Party :)
Its wonderful to watch......

Like l said on another thread, lm almost certain that Boris has already won this election which is comforting.

But........how big will his win be?
 
France’s SNCF is nationalised. It is inefficient, highly subsidised by the taxpayer and its personnel have extremely extravagant employment perks, terms and conditions. These they regularly increase by holding the country to hostage by strikes led by their Communist trades union.
It's deja vu all over again, lads. Sounds like the country could do with a tisserand de chaume running the show.
 

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France’s SNCF is nationalised. It is inefficient, highly subsidised by the taxpayer and its personnel have extremely extravagant employment perks, terms and conditions. These they regularly increase by holding the country to hostage by strikes led by their Communist trades union.
And train drivers retire on full salaries at 45 years old. An utterly toxic system
 
Its wonderful to watch......

Like l said on another thread, lm almost certain that Boris has already won this election which is comforting.

But........how big will his win be?
Not as big as his ego.
 
France’s SNCF is nationalised. It is inefficient, highly subsidised by the taxpayer and its personnel have extremely extravagant employment perks, terms and conditions. These they regularly increase by holding the country to hostage by strikes led by their Communist trades union.
Please tell that to all my Corbinist friends on face book - who insist on comparing most expensive UK rate with cheapest French - Ignore that a return in France has no reduction its effectively 2 singles and if theres a problem in the UK the rail provides a bus - in France its a case of your stuck go hire a car not our problem.

Because all I get is told im a thick brainwashed Tory apologist when I try to point out its not all roses.

Occasionally Corbynistas who dont know me will add xenophobic little Englander swallowing Daily Mail propaganda and suggest I actually visit France and see for myself.
 

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