Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

#21
What's interesting about all this is that although the metropolitan "liberal" LAB is still dominant, you've got a core of hardcore trots and Stalinists still in there. Then, you've got the Northern tribal lab voters who vote lab cos me granddad, 'is flat cap and 'is whippet did (whose views and habits the metropolitan types despise and who, in a certain way, are almost kept as pets by them).

Interesting coalition that.
 
#22
I remember reading John O'Farrell's book "Things Can Only Get Better", which relates his experience of growing up as a Labour student / activist then party member / comedy writer through the seventies, eighties and nineties.

At one point he recalls looking across the common room at the young conservatives and wondering why they were all cheering at the election of Michael Foot as leader of the Labour Party...

I wonder if the Islington set champagne socialist twat is getting flashbacks now?

Gods, I hope so. Reading that smug git's oh so funny ramblings was a punishment in itself; I deserve some payback.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#24
The best £3 I ever spent.
Labour consigned to the toilet, what a great year this is panning out to be.
Were you a card carrying member of the tory party?

If you were then you will have just lost your membership.

As for membership solely bought to affect the leadership election. They're being investigated and where found invalidated.

You have just wasted your £3.00
 
#27
Well they're in meltdown over at the Guardian over the Telegraphs 'Join Labour vote Corbyn' campaign. Apparently the Labour Party have promised to ignore votes from obvious Tories and keep the £3 as a 'donation'. Perhaps the Electoral Commission may have something to say about that.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#29
@ACAB don't see why there's a problem. If you join the party you agree to further the aims of the party. If you intend to subvert the party you will be fucked off at the high port.

Lesson learned from the days of Militant.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#31
#32
Were you a card carrying member of the tory party?

If you were then you will have just lost your membership.

As for membership solely bought to affect the leadership election. They're being investigated and where found invalidated.

You have just wasted your £3.00
How will they figure out which ones are there to affect the election? Call you up and say "Are you a Tory"?
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#33
How will they figure out which ones are there to affect the election? Call you up and say "Are you a Tory"?
I would imagine that Tory membership rolls may come into it. And complaints to the Electoral Commission.
 
#34
I would imagine that Tory membership rolls may come into it. And complaints to the Electoral Commission.
But if you're like me and are not affiliated to any political party....

And those on the Tory party roll can easily produce a backdated letter saying that they have had enough and wish to cancel their membership "and it's not my fault they haven't updated their records".....

In other words, Labour could only nail the terminally stupid, and most of the "new members" will have to stay on the list.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

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#35
Were you a card carrying member of the tory party?

If you were then you will have just lost your membership.

As for membership solely bought to affect the leadership election. They're being investigated and where found invalidated.

You have just wasted your £3.00
Excellent, on top of everything else they'll be arguing about the result for years and the suspicions will linger about a stitch up - your average Labour Party activist can teach the Serbs and Irish a thing or two about bearing a grudge and putting the boot in. Not only that, but there's bound to be a cock-up and the victim will probably be some bona fide survivor of the International Brigade/Jarrow March/Tollpuddle Martyr who will celebrate his disenfranchisement at great volume in the mainstream media.

Operation Spot the Tory must be costing them a fortune in personpower and, happily for the rest of us, the folk employed trying to spot the wrong 'uns will be too busy to get up to any other mischief. Labour's also flirting with the possibility of having to run the election again, thus prolonging the embarrassment and confirming everyone's belief about their general lack of a piss up/brewery interface.
 
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#36
As long ago as June this year (and they say a week is a long time in politics) the New Statesman was referring to Corbyn as "the token lefty" and had him on between 5 and 9 per cent with Burnham the clear leader.
Have they changed the voting system since the 2010 debacle or will it all come down to who the unions want again?
 
#37
As long ago as June this year (and they say a week is a long time in politics) the New Statesman was referring to Corbyn as "the token lefty" and had him on between 5 and 9 per cent with Burnham the clear leader.
Have they changed the voting system since the 2010 debacle or will it all come down to who the unions want again?
It's now one member, one vote. TU members can vote in the election as individuals (i.e. there is no TU block vote) only if they decide to become affiliated members of the party.
(I've posted the following before, but) Corbyn is doing well at hustings as he has the clearest message. I don't agree with a lot of what he says but he's communicating clearly whilst Burnham, Cooper and Kendall (could be a law firm) are being too careful, too bland. Corbyn is also pressing the right buttons for CLP members who, generally, are of the left of the party. He really could do it and then it's cheerio Labour.
 
#39
There is a theory doing the rounds that the next leader of the LP won't be the actual candidate at the next GE. Apparently getting the leaders job at this stage would be the kiss of political career death.
 
#40
But the difference this time, and what makes it truly special, is that Corbyn is the form horse despite being sponsored solely as a sop to the trots...
Or, are there enough unreconstituted "Trots" in Parliament hiding behind this premise and hoping that Corbyn will be successful?
 

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