Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
I was thinking more about the potential for civil disobedience,

We heard at the last TUC jamboree mention of general strikes to "get the Tories out". So rather than accept the will of the people in the event of a Conservative win would we expect demos, riots, strikes etc. to thwart the will of the people? And in that case would those acting so renounce any claim to be democratic representatives of the people or would they still claim (with a straight face) that what they are doing is what the people want?

I get a sense that the Labour party is moving away from acceptance to justifying zealotry and dogma, all in the name of the people of course.
more a craven grab for power by any means possible. the hard left have never been this close to office ever, and they'd pimp out their grannies if they thought it would improve their chances of getting the keys to no.10.
 

philc

LE
More of the new kinder gentler politics...



I most likely have posted this before but Weyman Bennett is more than just a loud mouth he is a very nasty piece of work who was deeply involved in the SWP rape scandal. That Jones and Co can stand next to him shows either a complete lack of self awareness or they are happy to be work with individuals like this as they feel they are some how morally superior.

That any one stands of the same platform as the SWP shows their totally unsuitability to be near any form of power.

Comrades at war: the decline and fall of the Socialist Workers Party



In 2013 the SWP became politically radioactive, even on the left, when it disgraced itself by the way it handled a rape allegation. A 17-year-old female member complained that a senior party officer, referred to in reports as “Comrade Delta”, had raped her. The resulting scandal was widely covered in the press.
 
Which was sort of my point.
They won 56 seats in 2010. If they had sniped at the sides with well thought out policies instead of joining a coalition, it's possible that they would have 75+ come the 2015 GE and become a real force. Today I suspect you'd be hard pushed to find 40% of Joe Public who could name their leader correctly.

Clegg & Co were intoxicated by the thought of any real power, but if didn't help that they left many of their principles at the front door of Nº10, or got into a strop when the Tories didn't go with their wackier ideas.
Cable is dead set against another GE because he knows that the Lib Dems will lose their remaining seats. Under his insipid leadership, they have become a total irrelevance.
 
Cable is dead set against another GE because he knows that the Lib Dems will lose their remaining seats. Under his insipid leadership, they have become a total irrelevance.
Are you sure, I thought they were creeping up in the polls again, now that students are more getting angry over realising Corbyn is a closet brexit than about the Lib Dems getting into bed with the Tories and forgetting their election promises

And with PMTM being economic with the actualité over her attempts to not deliver Brexit, surely they have good chance of picking up the votes of disillusioned Tory and Labour voters (as long as they keep people like David 'The Jews' Ward from speaking of course)
 
We're both saving quite a bit in free prescriptions as we get them like confetti, all paid for by English taxpayers effectively
Enjoy it while it lasts... If Mrs May's 'the only deal is my deal' is rejected on Tuesday there will be no medicines available for anybody at any price, never mind by way of free prescriptions.

Those who do not perish in endless and never moving traffic jams and those who do not die of starvation (no food you see) will die horribly through a total lack of life preserving medication.

Make the most of your free prescriptions. Medicines will be rarer than smiling remainers.
 
Enjoy it while it lasts... If Mrs May's 'the only deal is my deal' is rejected on Tuesday there will be no medicines available for anybody at any price, never mind by way of free prescriptions.

Those who do not perish in endless and never moving traffic jams and those who do not die of starvation (no food you see) will die horribly through a total lack of life preserving medication.

Make the most of your free prescriptions. Medicines will be rarer than smiling remainers.
Baglock walt! ;)
 
Enjoy it while it lasts... If Mrs May's 'the only deal is my deal' is rejected on Tuesday there will be no medicines available for anybody at any price, never mind by way of free prescriptions.

Those who do not perish in endless and never moving traffic jams and those who do not die of starvation (no food you see) will die horribly through a total lack of life preserving medication.

Make the most of your free prescriptions. Medicines will be rarer than smiling remainers.
Don’t worry about starvation - we can always use politicians as pet food.
 

Trans-sane

LE
Book Reviewer
Enjoy it while it lasts... If Mrs May's 'the only deal is my deal' is rejected on Tuesday there will be no medicines available for anybody at any price, never mind by way of free prescriptions.

Those who do not perish in endless and never moving traffic jams and those who do not die of starvation (no food you see) will die horribly through a total lack of life preserving medication.

Make the most of your free prescriptions. Medicines will be rarer than smiling remainers.
Funny that. Two of the top ten biggest factories for generic drugs in Europe are less than ten miles from the sofa I am currently sat on. And when I'm at work less than five miles. All the articles and talk about medication being impossible to get because of Brexit prior to Christmas were for the most part bollocks. The ones I saw listed in one particular article were the ones pharmacies always ran short of around this time of year.
 

ging-gwar

Old-Salt
Enjoy it while it lasts... If Mrs May's 'the only deal is my deal' is rejected on Tuesday there will be no medicines available for anybody at any price, never mind by way of free prescriptions.

Those who do not perish in endless and never moving traffic jams and those who do not die of starvation (no food you see) will die horribly through a total lack of life preserving medication.

Make the most of your free prescriptions. Medicines will be rarer than smiling remainers.
Funny that a friend of mine who works in a senior management role within a pharmaceutical company seems to think otherwise.
They will simply source from the UK than Europe as the only reason they buy from there is cost and it’s not that much cheaper either....
 
Funny that. Two of the top ten biggest factories for generic drugs in Europe are less than ten miles from the sofa I am currently sat on. And when I'm at work less than five miles. All the articles and talk about medication being impossible to get because of Brexit prior to Christmas were for the most part bollocks. The ones I saw listed in one particular article were the ones pharmacies always ran short of around this time of year.
Funny that a friend of mine who works in a senior management role within a pharmaceutical company seems to think otherwise.
They will simply source from the UK than Europe as the only reason they buy from there is cost and it’s not that much cheaper either....
it really was a tongue in cheek remark... people perishing in unmoving traffic jams should have been a clue.

Merely a regurgitation of a project fear projection.
 
Funny that. Two of the top ten biggest factories for generic drugs in Europe are less than ten miles from the sofa I am currently sat on..
Guessing you live near Hayes, whole industrial estate filled with Pharma companies.
 

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