Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

How you can say that when the intellectual titan that is Kier Starmer will be in charge of the negotiations is beyond me.....
Of course when he did so well as Director of Public Prosecutions who better for such an intellectual titan for Brexit negotiations, if he isn't Common Purpose he might as well be
 

offog

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Pure courtesy... the Tories alone don't have the numbers to guarantee a win either.
JC also does not have the numbers. Even if you discount the DUP the Tories still have more, not by many but still more. There are about 9 MPs who are stateless and most of them are Labour and most of those have a axe to grind with JC and who may be out of work come a GE. JC may find in the next couple of days that he has one less on his side too.
 
JC also does not have the numbers.
I know... my post - the one you quoted

Pure courtesy... the Tories alone don't have the numbers to guarantee a win either.
was simply a direct response to this post

On BBC News Corbyn saying they haven't the numbers for a vote of no confidence so he is asking for support from across the house.


649 MPs (plus a non voting Mr Speaker) of whom there are
317 Tories
10 DUP

If the DUP* hold to their C&S agreement it gives the government a majority of just 5 votes. Add in your handful of Labour dissenters and the majority increases a little so technically, the government can and probably will survive a VoNC. In reality though, it will just be further weakened by such a close vote. Even with abstentions and a handful of dissenters defying the whips it is never going to be a convincing win for the already lame duck government.

Please don't confuse my words with my wants. The very last thing we need is a labour government. We need a stronger and more cohesive Tory Government with a leader rather than a loser in charge but in the current political climes, I can't really see when or where that is ever going to appear.


* The DUP, if they vote against the government next Tuesday may find it difficult to support them in a hot pursuit VoNC.
The DUP says it will support the government in any confidence vote if the Brexit deal is rejected, making a defeat less likely.
 
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How is having another GE going to help, it will be the same civil servants running things in the background
All a GE does is to kick the can down the road for another 2 or 3 or more years. We voted for Brexit and all we're getting is delays.
 

Themanwho

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There at not enough funnies.
Last year he banged on about how bad the NHS is in Wales, it is bad people are leaving hospitals and GP's practices because bureaucracy is worse than in England

I think he genuinely forgot Labour has been in charge of it a long time
 
No industry, few jobs outside Cardiff that don't involve tourism, farming or shop work

At the moment heavily subsidised by England, and only let down by a devolved administration that manages to waste money in ways Westminster can only dream of

Can't see independence happening myself, but hey a week is a long time in politics so who knows
 

RZer0

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No industry, few jobs outside Cardiff that don't involve tourism, farming or shop work

At the moment heavily subsidised by England, and only let down by a devolved administration that manages to waste money in ways Westminster can only dream of

Can't see independence happening myself, but hey a week is a long time in politics so who knows
This is the thing though, same for the wee nippers across the wall. They enjoy the life because its being paid for mostly from the English taxes, remove that income and where else are they going to get money from.
They was programme on Sky over Christmas where David Walliams gets elected and creates a republic. He then turns the country into broke shit hole and the paroles ask for the Queen to be reinstated .
I guess that how it work out for the wee nippers and the Welsh once the English pound stops following.
 
This is the thing though, same for the wee nippers across the wall. They enjoy the life because its being paid for mostly from the English taxes, remove that income and where else are they going to get money from.
They was programme on Sky over Christmas where David Walliams gets elected and creates a republic. He then turns the country into broke shit hole and the paroles ask for the Queen to be reinstated .
I guess that how it work out for the wee nippers and the Welsh once the English pound stops following.

But they will be free...............................
 
This is the thing though, same for the wee nippers across the wall. They enjoy the life because its being paid for mostly from the English taxes, remove that income and where else are they going to get money from.
They was programme on Sky over Christmas where David Walliams gets elected and creates a republic. He then turns the country into broke shit hole and the paroles ask for the Queen to be reinstated .
I guess that how it work out for the wee nippers and the Welsh once the English pound stops following.
We're both saving quite a bit in free prescriptions as we get them like confetti, all paid for by English taxpayers effectively
 

Themanwho

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Book Reviewer
Count Danukula nails it...

After three Jewish papers in the U.K. published an unprecedented joint op-ed warning of rising anti-Semitism, a Scottish politican suggested that Mossad Was behind it.

Today, she was reinstated as a full member into Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party.
 
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More of the new kinder gentler politics...

People's Assembly speaker Weyman Bennett from Stand Up To Racism calls for Theresa May to shoot herself.

John Mcdonnell and Owen Jones also spoke after this man at the rally.
 

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