Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

What exactly are they scared of?
Well variously;

Being made unwelcome in their own country.

A government who does not view them as belonging in that country, even though they were born there.

Being viewed as linked to a country by religion which the Corbyn Labour party has a clesr agenda against.

One of my friends simply said, "you know this is how it starts?". Some of his family were forced to emigrate from Iraq.

I don't blame them for being nervous. That Palestinian Appreciation Society seemed to be riding a wave of self-righteous anger. Easy to start such passion, less so to control them.
 
Quality.

 
Anyone catch the sainted Jeremy’s interview with Laura Kuenssberg on the BBC?
He came across as a chippy, smug, evasive, not particularly bright individual - I know most politicians fit that description, but gentler, inclusive politics? My arse!
 
It's ridiculous. A General Strike will just make workers lose wages to promote the career ambitions of Labour politicians who, if they got in, would compound the economic chaos of Brexit by hammering companies even further. Then they intend causing a run on the pound as they borrow massively to spend on shit like nationalising uneconomic stuff. The working man is going to be absolutely shafted and for what? So the unions can put a stooge in the boardroom?

Comparisons are made with Venezuela and they're not going to be wide of the mark. The saving grace is they'll only get 5 years at most before being booted out again as yet another generation learns the hard way that Labour just doesn't work.
 
Its not really funny when you look back at the posts when members were paying their cash to sign up to pay for Jizza on the basis that we would not see Labour in power for a generation - everyone assumed we'd have a decent Tory government, and we got PMTM.

Jokes on who exactly?
 
I was nearly swayed to vote labour this week! I listened to the complaint that at the moment a few thousand people have the power in the country, and that's very very bad, the labour idea is to have a few hundred taking control of the country as that will be better for democracy hahahahahaha hahahahahaha

I haven't noticed anyone talking about the plan to have workers on company boards to help empower the workforce.
What could be better than having the women with no qualifications and is the toilet cleaner on the board of a company making hi tech radars or computers?

If I'm honest I can't say I'm really following the logic of putting people on company boards who didn't choose to be a director or might not have the skill set to be a director.

The whole agenda so far seems to be to get Jezza into power and then hand lots of power to employees and workers who thus far werent the money makers in society.

But let's not also forget the the ten days off for women suffering domestic abuse, good old labour giving them ten days at home with their abuser rather than perhaps being at work and getting moral support in a safe environment.
So the Marxist cünt that is the Shadow Chancellor has stated that should the people of the UK be stupid enough to vote for a Labour government, he would force all companies with over 250 employees to give 10% of their shares to their workers (to be held in a central pool) at the minimum rate of 1% per annum. Workers would then receive a dividend (the same as other shareholders).

Let’s take an example: Royal Dutch Shell. A nice oil company with 6,300 staff in the UK.
Last year the dividend per share was GBP 0.97 on about GBP 10 billion of profits.
There are 8.22 billion shares in Shell.
Thus the workers’ holding would be 822,000,000 shares.

This gives 130,475 shares per UK employee, and would yield GBP 126,560 per employee per year in dividends (note: dividends can go up as well as down). Now extrapolate that across all the companies in the UK that pay out a total of hundreds of billions of pounds each year in dividends. That’s rather a lot of cash.
How much would that be paid out to the workers from just the top 100 companies (just the publicly traded ones)? Answer: GBP 8.622 billion pounds. Per year.

Nice eh? Power to the workers!

What was that? Labour would put in a GBP 500 cap per employee and the rest would be sent to the tax man? Say it ain’t so!

So each Shell worker would get GBP 500 (under current rules this would be tax free unless the worker has share dividend income in excess of GBP 2,000 from other sources). The tax man gets GBP 794,182,725. This is on top of the corporate taxes and all the other duties and taxes paid by Shell last year.

So why is it a BAD IDEA? Because all the large companies would move out of the UK the next day and maintain a minimal (if any) presence in the UK. Because no-one will invest in the UK if they know that the idiot Labour people will steal 10% of their dividends on top of the corporate tax (which Labour have already said that they will increase to over 35%). This would also further devastate pension funds (which Gordon ‘Cycloptic ****’ Brown did his best to destroy). Also: has a Labour government ever introduced a tax and left it at that rate? Anyone? Answer: no. Their tax rate has been increased on every tax in every Labour government.

Thinking about voting Labour? Think about a life on the dole in a cold and wet version of Venezuela or Zimbabwe: if you want Labour go and live in Venezuela. John McDonnell: a stupid and dangerous Marxist twat.
 
It's started. If they don't get a General Election they're calling for a General Strike - Labour MP calls for general strike

And when they lose a General Election (which they will), what next?
Long-Bailey was back pedalling on that this morning. A national strike is not Labour policy.
Ms Smith may be getting an interview without water latter today.
 

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Its not really funny when you look back at the posts when members were paying their cash to sign up to pay for Jizza on the basis that we would not see Labour in power for a generation - everyone assumed we'd have a decent Tory government, and we got PMTM.

Jokes on who exactly?
I think the principal idea that having Corbyn as Leader would ensure a non Labour government was sound and the action of Momentum since and the inactions of Corbyn have ensured that! Can anyone point out anything that Corbyn has actually done since becoming Great Leader?

As for getting Mrs May as PM, well that is one of these unforeseen consequence things which comes along to remind everyone just what happens with politics when the real leaders hide! I don't think we can blame Labour for Mrs May's incompetence!

We live in interesting times :D
 
Can you clarify this investigation, I understand the allegations where made in Parliment but no follow up by the school and no further allegations were made, however I am not aware of any investigation made by the local education authority.

I have used google to no avail, perhaps you have access to a better search engine than I.

Many thanks.
So I see @Mothman has been and gone and not supplied a source for any investigation in to these claims, so I take it, rather like Corbyns many utterances, its a lie.
 

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So the Marxist cünt that is the Shadow Chancellor has stated that should the people of the UK be stupid enough to vote for a Labour government, he would force all companies with over 250 employees to give 10% of their shares to their workers (to be held in a central pool) at the minimum rate of 1% per annum. Workers would then receive a dividend (the same as other shareholders).

Let’s take an example: Royal Dutch Shell. A nice oil company with 6,300 staff in the UK.
Last year the dividend per share was GBP 0.97 on about GBP 10 billion of profits.
There are 8.22 billion shares in Shell.
Thus the workers’ holding would be 822,000,000 shares.

This gives 130,475 shares per UK employee, and would yield GBP 126,560 per employee per year in dividends (note: dividends can go up as well as down). Now extrapolate that across all the companies in the UK that pay out a total of hundreds of billions of pounds each year in dividends. That’s rather a lot of cash.
How much would that be paid out to the workers from just the top 100 companies (just the publicly traded ones)? Answer: GBP 8.622 billion pounds. Per year.

Nice eh? Power to the workers!

What was that? Labour would put in a GBP 500 cap per employee and the rest would be sent to the tax man? Say it ain’t so!

So each Shell worker would get GBP 500 (under current rules this would be tax free unless the worker has share dividend income in excess of GBP 2,000 from other sources). The tax man gets GBP 794,182,725. This is on top of the corporate taxes and all the other duties and taxes paid by Shell last year.

So why is it a BAD IDEA? Because all the large companies would move out of the UK the next day and maintain a minimal (if any) presence in the UK. Because no-one will invest in the UK if they know that the idiot Labour people will steal 10% of their dividends on top of the corporate tax (which Labour have already said that they will increase to over 35%). This would also further devastate pension funds (which Gordon ‘Cycloptic ****’ Brown did his best to destroy). Also: has a Labour government ever introduced a tax and left it at that rate? Anyone? Answer: no. Their tax rate has been increased on every tax in every Labour government.

Thinking about voting Labour? Think about a life on the dole in a cold and wet version of Venezuela or Zimbabwe: if you want Labour go and live in Venezuela. John McDonnell: a stupid and dangerous Marxist twat.
Firstly I don't think McDonell is stupid - dangerous, certainly; devious, mendacious and anti British also with only thoughts for the political ideals he holds rather than the people he is supposed to support.

I am glad that this policy has been announced and shown up for the piece of rubbish it is, but as I say Comrade McDonell knows the reception it would get so what is he really after and being hidden behind this smokescreen? I doubt this would be in any manifesto for a GE but the ideals would be put in place should they actually fool the country into voting them in to No10.

What a shame the Tory Party are also riven by Brexit as the Labour Conference should be ammo for their speakers and they could have ripped the Labour Party apart after this conference's utterances. Unfortunately Labour will get away with it I think, instead of being attacked and shown up for what they are and what they now stand for.
 
I think the principal idea that having Corbyn as Leader would ensure a non Labour government was sound and the action of Momentum since and the inactions of Corbyn have ensured that! Can anyone point out anything that Corbyn has actually done since becoming Great Leader?

As for getting Mrs May as PM, well that is one of these unforeseen consequence things which comes along to remind everyone just what happens with politics when the real leaders hide! I don't think we can blame Labour for Mrs May's incompetence!

We live in 'effin scary times :D
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I think the principal idea that having Corbyn as Leader would ensure a non Labour government was sound and the action of Momentum since and the inactions of Corbyn have ensured that! Can anyone point out anything that Corbyn has actually done since becoming Great Leader?

As for getting Mrs May as PM, well that is one of these unforeseen consequence things which comes along to remind everyone just what happens with politics when the real leaders hide! I don't think we can blame Labour for Mrs May's incompetence!

We live in interesting times :D
the concern I have is them going after the youth vote with more lies like 'no student loans' and the sucklers believe them. If they motivate the youth vote to get its finger out we are in deep shit
 
It's started. If they don't get a General Election they're calling for a General Strike - Labour MP calls for general strike

And when they lose a General Election (which they will), what next?
Such buffoonery will simply alienate more of the traditional labour voters as will the Palestine flag nonsense . It’s clear that Corbyn is also vacillating on being the party of remain despite what Starmer is advocating, Starmer had a union leader deliver a speech and disagree with him on his stance yesterday. Corbyn knows that many of the cities and regions that voted leave are traditional labour heartlands, ordinary working people who don’t identify with the hardline speeches at conference and the views of the champagne socialists. The assorted bunch of citizen smith types and disaffected remiainers currently trying to drive policy may very well get a wake up call if they continue, as old school supporters will vote with their feet.
 
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Such buffoonery will simply alienate more of the traditional labour voters as will the Palestine flag nonsense . It’s clear that Corbyn is also vacillating on being the party of remain despite what Starmer is advocating, Starmer had a union leader stand up and disagree with him in one speech yesterday. Corbyn knows that many of the cities and regions that voted leave are traditional labour heartlands, ordinary working people who don’t identify with the hardline speeches at conference and the views of the champagne socialists. The assorted bunch of citizen smith types and disaffected remiainers currently trying to drive policy may very well get a wake up call if they continue, as old school supporters will vote with their feet.
and vote for whom exactly?
 

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Let's just remember that Uni fees were a LABOUR idea introduced because the 'working class' (Andy Capp types intended) did not get the state-subsidised late adolescence which was being dished out to the elite.


Parallel to this we have the lunatic idea that 'working class' students should get specific help as, unlike their betters, their degrees will not enable them to get rich.
 
and vote for whom exactly?
That is the question. Many voters, me included see the choices as poor. I’m certainly no fan of May and have voted for all of the main political parties over the years, even the Lib Dem’s once, oh the shame. However despite my dislike of the incumbent prime minister, the thought of Jezza, Diane and McDonnell holding the levers of power truly scares me. If an election was called tomorrow there really would be only one choice, unless of course I chose to spoil the ballot paper. I like to flatter myself that my stance reflects that of many ordinary voters.
 

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