Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

Corbyn hates the West? And you "know" that how? I thought stupid nonsense like that stopped along with the Cold War in about 1991. Would you like to post some proper "evidence" that Corbyn "hates the West"?

MsG
It would appear that there are a number of people who disagree with you (apart from everyone on ARRSE)

Corbyn is so blinded by anti-West hatred he can't spot the Bad Guys - Reaction

The truth about Jeremy Corbyn: not a spy but a fool who hates capitalism and the West

Corbyn’s hatred of Blair warps his world view

Corbyn’s profoundly anti-western worldview is fully exposed at last | The Spectator

Jeremy Corbyn isn’t anti-war. He’s just anti-West | The Spectator

Corbyn’s world view is founded on the Left’s hatred of the West
 
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I fully believe that Corby will have to be removed before the next GE if Labour are to get back in power and I suspect that Keir Starmer will be entering the leadership contest at some point.
It took Old Labour 15 years to accept that they were unelectable and install Tony Blair as party leader. That was at a time when Labour's electoral college voting style meant that the ordinary members had little say in who became leader.

Now, it's one member one vote and the membership is being flooded by every communist, socialist worker and momentum loony leftie in the country. If Jeremy is removed, he'll be replaced by a like minded soul such as John McDonnell or possibly even some Momentum potentate parachuted in to a safe seat.

In its present form, the Labour party is not only unelectable, it's irredeemable as well. As time goes on, I think Labour will split into a moderate, social democratic party and an unelectable hard left rump. Of course, that's what the SDP tried to do last time Labour lurched to the left in the 1980s. Potential splitters will remember the humiliation of the Gang of Four.

We live in interesting times but the Labour party lives in more interesting times.
 
Corbyn hates the West? And you "know" that how? I thought stupid nonsense like that stopped along with the Cold War in about 1991. Would you like to post some proper "evidence" that Corbyn "hates the West"?

MsG
His (and the current Labour party's) wish to seize power and turn the UK into a Soviet satellite? His mixing with those who are at odds with the west? Him being a total c**t?
 
In its present form, the Labour party is not only unelectable, it's irredeemable as well.
The polls suggest otherwise. A slight percentage swing which might result from Brexit, a downturn in the economy, an unpopular war, the belief the Jews control the media/banks/NWO etc and the UK is fucked.

Blair won the the 2005 election with just 35% of the vote (Obviously the Conservatives had a lot lower than what they have now).
 
It took Old Labour 15 years to accept that they were unelectable and install Tony Blair as party leader. That was at a time when Labour's electoral college voting style meant that the ordinary members had little say in who became leader.

Now, it's one member one vote and the membership is being flooded by every communist, socialist worker and momentum loony leftie in the country. If Jeremy is removed, he'll be replaced by a like minded soul such as John McDonnell or possibly even some Momentum potentate parachuted in to a safe seat.

In its present form, the Labour party is not only unelectable, it's irredeemable as well. As time goes on, I think Labour will split into a moderate, social democratic party and an unelectable hard left rump. Of course, that's what the SDP tried to do last time Labour lurched to the left in the 1980s. Potential splitters will remember the humiliation of the Gang of Four.

We live in interesting times but the Labour party lives in more interesting times.
Can't agree. Labour are becoming more electable not less. That's partly down to the way they court their membership from the young (who don't remember just how destructive a Labour government can be), through the rebel years to the late 20's/early 30's and the way they get their message across (and they're way better than the Conservatives at that). Targeting ethnic groups, self-interest groups and minorities has always been their way and again, unlike the Conservatives, they are very, very good at it.

Once people get to either middle age or reach a comfortable income/lifestyle they switch to the Libs or Conservatives and it's always been that way.
 
An ex-military friend on FB responding to a younger ex-military friend bigging up Corbyn - "Do you remember Kev Frogget. Radio Relay tech? He got killed, shot off a mast in NI by the PIRA. This twat was drinking tea with the IRA 2 days later."
 
Can't agree. Labour are becoming more electable not less. That's partly down to the way they court their membership from the young (who don't remember just how destructive a Labour government can be), through the rebel years to the late 20's/early 30's and the way they get their message across (and they're way better than the Conservatives at that). Targeting ethnic groups, self-interest groups and minorities has always been their way and again, unlike the Conservatives, they are very, very good at it.

Once people get to either middle age or reach a comfortable income/lifestyle they switch to the Libs or Conservatives and it's always been that way.
I always assumed that this quote was attributed to Churchill, however it appears not:

"If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain"

Heart-Head Link

YM
 
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But surely when Stewart queries the Great Leaders stance on Brexit he must remember, considering he has been a Labour supporter from the age of 5, that JC has been anti EU through the whole of his political career? BTW who really cares what various luvvies think or say?
Especially when they (a) think the 1945 election was a postwar one, and (b) expect us to believe that they held political principles at the age of five. But Stewart does make two interesting observations, the first being this:

"I have a suspicion Jeremy believes a disastrous Brexit would benefit him politically, and, in all the chaos and confusion that would occur after the policy is implemented ... he sees himself taking power."

Which could well be spot on.

The second concerns Corbyn's petulant short fuse (on display in their post-theatre exchange), something I and others have commented on before. It was evident, too, in a Sky News interview the other day, when the question (inevitably, about his links to terrorist groups) was not to his liking: the jerk of the head, the set of the jaw and the querulous, peevish denial. (You could almost hear the foot being stamped.) A leading politician who flares up like a teenage girl whenever he is crossed (in fact or perception) is a dangerously immature one. That alone makes him unfit to rule this country, and God knows there is much else in his character and record to justify that verdict. But millions of fools either can't or won't see it; heaven help us all if he ever does get to No 10.
 
But surely when Stewart queries the Great Leaders stance on Brexit he must remember, considering he has been a Labour supporter from the age of 5, that JC has been anti EU through the whole of his political career? BTW who really cares what various luvvies think or say?
Five years old and he already understands political issues? Really?

...sorry I forgot the man is an actor and is paid to say pretend stuff.....


Wouldn't it be grand if we thought that theater could have that impact on the political life of a country?
Patrick Stewart


Luvvies should stick to acting, they have little experience of the real world it seems.

Edited for crap spelling.... :oops:
 
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You might want to take your own advice there, fella! Plenty of evidence? Really? NONE of the individuals involved in the Munich massacre are even buried in Tunisia, let alone in the cemetery that Corbyn visited! And that's a verifiable fact!

Sure, one of the other attendees allegedly instigated an atrocity a month after the event. So just how was Corbyn involved with that? And what did he have to do with it?

I understand that you're just obeying your slavish instinct to bedevil anyone even remotely connected to allegedly "Socialist" policies, but examine the subject carefully and ask yourself earnestly whether you're not cutting off your nose to spite your face. In other words: whether you're enthusiastically supporting policies that are, in the end, against your own personal interests.

MsG
Nice try Mr Smackhead. Buried immediately in front of where Corbyn was posing with the wreath are the founders of Black September: the organisers of the Munich atrocity.
 
Fund this on the Inter-Web, whilst looking for something else . . .

"The Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award for 2013 was awarded to Jeremy Corbyn, MP Islington North on 26th November 2013 at Portcullis House".



The Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award 2013

Really don't know whether to laugh . . . or cry ?!
 
Fund this on the Inter-Web, whilst looking for something else . . .

"The Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award for 2013 was awarded to Jeremy Corbyn, MP Islington North on 26th November 2013 at Portcullis House".



The Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award 2013

Really don't know whether to laugh . . . or cry ?!
The opening words of Corbyn's acceptance speech from five years ago:

"Bruce is, as ever, giving me my clear guidance and instructions."

Substitute 'John' or 'Seumas' for Bruce and you're bang up to date!
 

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