Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

The thought of Comrade Cob in no.10 is truly worrying.
Europe divides both major parties, yet the governing party will carry the can for how this pans out.

I can't see brexit being fudged. Thus it either gets binned or we crash out. Both will lead to a crisis by the spring and a general election.

The conservatives aren't going to win once the country wakes up to the new reality
 
Shortening by the hour as PMTM flounders over Brexit, the EU rejecting her latest offer won't help either and I can't see what further concessions she can make without total capitulation.
Indeed, but if she walks away. Hard brexit will be utterly ruinous.

So in short, damned either way.
 
Europe divides both major parties, yet the governing party will carry the can for how this pans out.

I can't see brexit being fudged. Thus it either gets binned or we crash out. Both will lead to a crisis by the spring and a general election.

The conservatives aren't going to win once the country wakes up to the new reality
The new reality?
Do we really want a PM who wants to get rid of the Monarchy,thinks we should copy the economics of Venezuela, hates the Armed Forces(especially the Army,which he absolutely despises),and supports the ira?
 
Liar. I support the monarchy because it works. At least with the current monarch
The new reality?
Do we really want a PM who wants to get rid of the Monarchy,thinks we should copy the economics of Venezuela, hates the Armed Forces(especially the Army,which he absolutely despises),and supports the ira?
Unintended consequences
 
Indeed, but if she walks away. Hard brexit will be utterly ruinous.

So in short, damned either way.
Japan turned out alright doing a trade deal with the EU, don't see them adopting the EU or giving the EU lots of money

If anything they seem to have stiffed the EU big time

All we need is some balls, just need a PM willing to go up yours Junker
 
Japan turned out alright doing a trade deal with the EU, don't see them adopting the EU or giving the EU lots of money

If anything they seem to have stiffed the EU big time

All we need is some balls, just need a PM willing to go up yours Junker
Sadly not the one we have at the moment though...
 
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Looks like equality of outcome again. Absolutely no mention of dealing with anti-semitism.
Several comments express cynicism and concerns about Corbyn, Corbynistas and the pushing of small groups to effect change ie the way Corbyn and McDonnel emerged from an extremist fringe and are changing the party in to a replacement for the CPGB. It's not what the majority of the Labour party or it's members want but they are doing sod all about it.
 
All we need is some balls, just need a PM willing to go up yours Junker
Quite. Unfortunately, obvious candidates are in very short supply on the Tory benches at the moment. It's a shame Kate Hoey and Gisela Stuart are Labour! :smile:
 
Japan turned out alright doing a trade deal with the EU, don't see them adopting the EU or giving the EU lots of money

If anything they seem to have stiffed the EU big time

All we need is some balls, just need a PM willing to go up yours Junker
Japanese had less red lines.

EU-Japan Economic Partnership Agreement

Japan isn't asking for single market membership division without responsibility
Ah, you're OK with his Venezuelan utopia plan, hatred of the armed forces & support for the IRA.
No. You're lying about what I said.

I don't want a Corbyn premiership.

I'm one of many who've voted conservative in the past finding themselves unable to support a governing party putting it's own infighting ahead of the national interest.

Brexit will bring down the government and end the current parliament sometime in the next year, as things finally come to a head.

The next GE will be fought on brexit.

Labour merely need to get off the fence and change their stance based on public opinion to win the day. I think that they will do this to attain power.

This may well result in the double whammy of a ruinously socialist economic policy combined with the disaster of a hard brexit.

I may be derided for this view but back in 2016 the arrse consensus was for a 100 seat majority for the conservative party. We know how that panned out.
 

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