Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

It's not affecting national policy, so the impact is negligible.

If Tory infighting drags the UK into recession and hardship, the most natural thing in the world is to vote for the opposition.

Hard brexit will certainly cause this and probably bring down the government, in my view.
If Labour wants to form the Government, it'll have to land on a Brexit policy, at which point the Tories will look like a model of unity.

If it's going to form the government, Labour needs to be further ahead in the polls than it currently is and solve the conundrum as to why it persists with a leader whose approval ratings as a leader are worse than Theresa May's and going backwards.

In terms of Brexit and its impact, the die-hard Remainers in Westminster and the civil service are doing an excellent job of providing the Tories with an alibi in the event of a sub-optimal solution - even Channel 4 News had a Remain voter saying 'we're leaving, get on with it' last night.

If you want to know the reality, look at how many Labour MP's revolted in favour of Brexit and keep an eye on the support for those champions of Remain, the Lib Dems, which is currently flat-lining. Of course, in the event that support picks up for the Lib Dems, it's more likely to damage Labour as voters flee Corbyn's Collective.

Further, you've got no idea what the EU's going to be up to in 2022 which might vindicate Brexit to a degree that even you would find difficult to deny. Like it or not, and I know you don't, by that time the Euro will most likely have experienced a financial downturn that it is currently in no state to weather - and that's before the Italians have worked their particular magic and others have gone along for the ride.

There's also the question of the reputational damage incurred by Brussels in bringing Poland and Hungary into line, coupled with the fact that the UK electorate is, on the whole, more informed and sophisticated in their understanding of what the EU actually is and how it operates than prior to the whole Brexit debate.

You might have noticed how prominent Remainers are not generally well-regarded or popular people. The narrative being created is one of a well-heeled and selfish elite using dubious methods to ride roughshod and I doubt you'll persuade the likes of Blair to shut up and stop feeding that narrative between now and then.
 
If Labour wants to form the Government, it'll have to land on a Brexit policy, at which point the Tories will look like a model of unity.

If it's going to form the government, Labour needs to be further ahead in the polls than it currently is and solve the conundrum as to why it persists with a leader whose approval ratings as a leader are worse than Theresa May's and going backwards.

In terms of Brexit and its impact, the die-hard Remainers in Westminster and the civil service are doing an excellent job of providing the Tories with an alibi in the event of a sub-optimal solution - even Channel 4 News had a Remain voter saying 'we're leaving, get on with it' last night.

If you want to know the reality, look at how many Labour MP's revolted in favour of Brexit and keep an eye on the support for those champions of Remain, the Lib Dems, which is currently flat-lining. Of course, in the event that support picks up for the Lib Dems, it's more likely to damage Labour as voters flee Corbyn's Collective.

Further, you've got no idea what the EU's going to be up to in 2022 which might vindicate Brexit to a degree that even you would find difficult to deny. Like it or not, and I know you don't, by that time the Euro will most likely have experienced a financial downturn that it is currently in no state to weather - and that's before the Italians have worked their particular magic and others have gone along for the ride.

There's also the question of the reputational damage incurred by Brussels in bringing Poland and Hungary into line, coupled with the fact that the UK electorate is, on the whole, more informed and sophisticated in their understanding of what the EU actually is and how it operates than prior to the whole Brexit debate.

You might have noticed how prominent Remainers are not generally well-regarded or popular people. The narrative being created is one of a well-heeled and selfish elite using dubious methods to ride roughshod and I doubt you'll persuade the likes of Blair to shut up and stop feeding that narrative between now and then.
Speculation about the EU collapsing and attacking the messengers.

Brexit will damage the economy.

Most of the electorate will forget about the high minded constitutional issues that you apparently voted leave for once the economy tanks and they start losing their jobs.

The NE and Wales in particular.

The conservative party will carry the can for the failure.

Labours obvious flaws will pale into the background.

The EU isn't going to fall anytime soon. Like any political entity it can be perceived to be in a constant state of crisis, yet it it keeps on going.

The UK looks bloody ridiculous on the world stage and our once well earned reputation for stability and pragmatism is going out of the window, perhaps never to return.
 
You debase yourself with this kind of crap.

Are you 12 years old?
You laugh but I remember playing some online shooter recently, and someone was effing and blinding in chat and annoying people. Someone piped up what are you 12 or something, stop acting like a kid

No Im 11 came the reply

Then everyone went on about what kind of parent lets their child play a violent game
 
You laugh but I remember playing some online shooter recently, and someone was effing and blinding in chat and annoying people. Someone piped up what are you 12 or something, stop acting like a kid

No Im 11 came the reply

Then everyone went on about what kind of parent lets their child play a violent game
Are you nonce hunting on the side?
 
Apart from:-
Bird in the stripey red off-the-shoulder top;
Bloke in the Under Armour baseball cap and orange Hi-Viz jacket;
Bloke immediately beyond him with glasses and blue shirt, facing away from the camera;
Bloke in the (Burberry?) cap behind the jerk in the orange glasses at the end of the bar.
Hiv-Viz man - paid security?
Bird in red stripe - cant see much of her to decide!
Give you the other two - well in the background though.
 

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