Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

On the subject of unions, the NUT has yet to affiliate itself with Labour. The reason for not doing so is a fear of a resurgence of control of Labour by Blairites, the inference being that Labour isn't far enough left. This is important because what teachers and educational directors appear to believe is what many of them want children to believe, rather than presenting facts and encouraging critical analysis.

National shame is compulsory in the classroom | The Conservative Woman
 
On the subject of unions, the NUT has yet to affiliate itself with Labour. The reason for not doing so is a fear of a resurgence of control of Labour by Blairites, the inference being that Labour isn't far enough left. This is important because what teachers and educational directors appear to believe is what many of them want children to believe, rather than presenting facts and encouraging critical analysis.

National shame is compulsory in the classroom | The Conservative Woman
Totally agree. In the seventies, I had a very rigorous history master at school (which had just been turned Comp from Grammar) and for O'Level we concentrated on British and European history 1815 to 1945. My kids went to (a State) secondary school in the noughties in North London. My, did they have to put up with a pile of tosh. I was asked not to attend PTA meetings for upsetting the teachers, who were mostly absolutely clueless social justice warriors. I actually had one tell me that it didn't matter that she had minimal knowledge about the subject she was teaching, so long as she taught the kids the right way to think .......... !
 
I should watch more Tracey Ullman. As other's have said, it's not the best Corbyn impersonation but it doesn't matter.


Apparently some of his supporters are not too happy :)
Have names been taken? if so can I have sizes please for the blue and white striped suites, as I have secured a cushy position in the reeduaction camp clothing stores. Bearing in mind they will loose weight as rations are reduced. See you there fellow arrsers !
 
There is currently a pipeline being built from Haweswater to West Cumbria at a cost in excess of £200million to remove the need to abstract water from Ennerdale. This is being done to protect the freshwater pearl mussel that lives in the river fed by the lake.
I've no doubt that in the long term, it won't be shareholders in United Utilities who foot the bill...
I hope they ran it by the Manchester Corporation. Way back in the 19th century, the corp, realising that they needed water for the mills in and around Manchester, bought the water rights for most of the southern Lakes and built a canal system bringing water to Manchester.....FFS, it's not like it doesn't rain much here!!!
It's all about storage, dams and shit but surely as water runs down hill, we wont need to pump it south :cool:
 
Union activism against the government can only happen wheen the government is a Capitalist one. Once the party of the workers has seizeed power, the unions become a tool of the government. Same idea here from McDonnell, Corbyn, Milne et al.
It's going to end in tears, isn't it.
 
I hope they ran it by the Manchester Corporation. Way back in the 19th century, the corp, realising that they needed water for the mills in and around Manchester, bought the water rights for most of the southern Lakes and built a canal system bringing water to Manchester.....FFS, it's not like it doesn't rain much here!!!
It's all about storage, dams and shit but surely as water runs down hill, we wont need to pump it south :cool:
Brain fart moment.
I meant to put Thirlmere.
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Here is a link to an alternative view from Damian Thompson, who takes momentum less seriously:
Momentum isn’t hard left. It’s a theatrical cult | The Spectator
A cult for sure but still a potentially dangerous one. Perhaps he has a point in that taking them seriously gives them credence? (as a force for evil) Perhaps if we laugh at the bull in the china shop it won't break anything? =|
@Electromagnetic thanks for the link. I can understand the point of view, but I think it is facile and glib. There is a clear and present danger of a blinkered young electorate swallowing the Momentum crap completely - especially because of the theatre, as that is what engages the millenials.
 
@Electromagnetic thanks for the link. I can understand the point of view, but I think it is facile and glib. There is a clear and present danger of a blinkered young electorate swallowing the Momentum crap completely - especially because of the theatre, as that is what engages the millenials.
I agree. My first thoughts were "there's nothing to see here move along", so I did have a quick look for any political affiliation in case he was engaging in black propaganda. Only a quick look mind and didn't find any. No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite.
 
Here is a link to an alternative view from Damian Thompson, who takes momentum less seriously:
Momentum isn’t hard left. It’s a theatrical cult | The Spectator
A cult for sure but still a potentially dangerous one. Perhaps he has a point in that taking them seriously gives them credence? (as a force for evil) Perhaps if we laugh at the bull in the china shop it won't break anything? =|
This made me chuckle.

"The media are as compromised as consumers. Hence the delicious spectacle of Cathy Newman of Channel 4 News gasping for air as she was dragged out of her filter bubble by the libertarian psychologist Jordan Peterson, one of the few independent thinkers who flourishes on YouTube. Not coincidentally, he’s an authority on dopamine, the neurotransmitter that delivers short-term rewards to the brain. "
 
I agree. My first thoughts were "there's nothing to see here move along", so I did have a quick look for any political affiliation in case he was engaging in black propaganda. Only a quick look mind and didn't find any. No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite.
Damian Thompson is, amongst other things, a fairly Traditionalist Roman Catholic. I would place him firmly to the right of centre, politically. He's usually a good, incisive writer with some interesting points to make (as well as a good grounding in some quite esoteric subjects - addiction and cults to name but two).
 
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Damian Thompson is, amongst other things, a fairly Traditionalist Roman Catholic. I would place him firmly to the right of centre, politically. He's usually a good, incisive writer with some interesting points to make (as well as a good grounding in some quite esoteric subjects - addiction and cults to name but two).
That means the governments porn filters aren't very good, they're supposed to block esoteric content by default as part of the UK's great pornwall
 
Damian Thompson is, amongst other things, a fairly Traditionalist Roman Catholic. I would place him firmly to the right of centre, politically. He's usually a good, incisive writer with some interesting points to make (as well as a good grounding in some quite esoteric subjects - addiction and cults to name but two).
Thanks for that info.
 
I agree. My first thoughts were "there's nothing to see here move along", so I did have a quick look for any political affiliation in case he was engaging in black propaganda. Only a quick look mind and didn't find any. No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite.
Confession time: my sister is a long time (as in 40+ years) member of the Labour Party.

Her constituency party branch (she's in London) is being overwhelmed by Momentum supporters & their Marxist fellow travellers.
Their tactics of rudeness, intractability, intimidation & outright aggression are causing what might be termed "moderate" Labour members to walk away.
A not inconsiderable number of the most aggressive (especially towards female members) types also happen to belong to a certain minority not known for its political probity, especially in a constituency not a ritual stoning stone's throw from where she is.
 
Confession time: my sister is a long time (as in 40+ years) member of the Labour Party.

Her constituency party branch (she's in London) is being overwhelmed by Momentum supporters & their Marxist fellow travellers.
Their tactics of rudeness, intractability, intimidation & outright aggression are causing what might be termed "moderate" Labour members to walk away.
A not inconsiderable number of the most aggressive (especially towards female members) types also happen to belong to a certain minority not known for its political probity, especially in a constituency not a ritual stoning stone's throw from where she is.
This does not surprise me. As I said, the "No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite." ie I reckon they are dangerous so not sure why the disagree?
 
This does not surprise me. As I said, the "No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite." ie I reckon they are dangerous so not sure why the disagree?
The disagree was for your previous post & specifically this part:

A cult for sure but still a potentially dangerous one. Perhaps he has a point in that taking them seriously gives them credence? (as a force for evil) Perhaps if we laugh at the bull in the china shop it won't break anything?
Failing to take these scum seriously could have a truly disastrous outcome for the UK (I'd bugger off to my already in place bolt-hole on t' other side of the Pond for a start...:wink: ).
People laughed at UKIP right up to the moment they took the most EU seats in 2014, followed by Cameron caving in to pressure for a Brexit referendum.
 

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