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Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

Here is a link to an alternative view from Damian Thompson, who takes momentum less seriously:
Momentum isn’t hard left. It’s a theatrical cult | The Spectator
A cult for sure but still a potentially dangerous one. Perhaps he has a point in that taking them seriously gives them credence? (as a force for evil) Perhaps if we laugh at the bull in the china shop it won't break anything? =|
@Electromagnetic thanks for the link. I can understand the point of view, but I think it is facile and glib. There is a clear and present danger of a blinkered young electorate swallowing the Momentum crap completely - especially because of the theatre, as that is what engages the millenials.
 
@Electromagnetic thanks for the link. I can understand the point of view, but I think it is facile and glib. There is a clear and present danger of a blinkered young electorate swallowing the Momentum crap completely - especially because of the theatre, as that is what engages the millenials.
I agree. My first thoughts were "there's nothing to see here move along", so I did have a quick look for any political affiliation in case he was engaging in black propaganda. Only a quick look mind and didn't find any. No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite.
 
Here is a link to an alternative view from Damian Thompson, who takes momentum less seriously:
Momentum isn’t hard left. It’s a theatrical cult | The Spectator
A cult for sure but still a potentially dangerous one. Perhaps he has a point in that taking them seriously gives them credence? (as a force for evil) Perhaps if we laugh at the bull in the china shop it won't break anything? =|
This made me chuckle.

"The media are as compromised as consumers. Hence the delicious spectacle of Cathy Newman of Channel 4 News gasping for air as she was dragged out of her filter bubble by the libertarian psychologist Jordan Peterson, one of the few independent thinkers who flourishes on YouTube. Not coincidentally, he’s an authority on dopamine, the neurotransmitter that delivers short-term rewards to the brain. "
 

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I agree. My first thoughts were "there's nothing to see here move along", so I did have a quick look for any political affiliation in case he was engaging in black propaganda. Only a quick look mind and didn't find any. No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite.
Damian Thompson is, amongst other things, a fairly Traditionalist Roman Catholic. I would place him firmly to the right of centre, politically. He's usually a good, incisive writer with some interesting points to make (as well as a good grounding in some quite esoteric subjects - addiction and cults to name but two).
 
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Damian Thompson is, amongst other things, a fairly Traditionalist Roman Catholic. I would place him firmly to the right of centre, politically. He's usually a good, incisive writer with some interesting points to make (as well as a good grounding in some quite esoteric subjects - addiction and cults to name but two).
That means the governments porn filters aren't very good, they're supposed to block esoteric content by default as part of the UK's great pornwall
 
Damian Thompson is, amongst other things, a fairly Traditionalist Roman Catholic. I would place him firmly to the right of centre, politically. He's usually a good, incisive writer with some interesting points to make (as well as a good grounding in some quite esoteric subjects - addiction and cults to name but two).
Thanks for that info.
 
I agree. My first thoughts were "there's nothing to see here move along", so I did have a quick look for any political affiliation in case he was engaging in black propaganda. Only a quick look mind and didn't find any. No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite.
Confession time: my sister is a long time (as in 40+ years) member of the Labour Party.

Her constituency party branch (she's in London) is being overwhelmed by Momentum supporters & their Marxist fellow travellers.
Their tactics of rudeness, intractability, intimidation & outright aggression are causing what might be termed "moderate" Labour members to walk away.
A not inconsiderable number of the most aggressive (especially towards female members) types also happen to belong to a certain minority not known for its political probity, especially in a constituency not a ritual stoning stone's throw from where she is.
 
Confession time: my sister is a long time (as in 40+ years) member of the Labour Party.

Her constituency party branch (she's in London) is being overwhelmed by Momentum supporters & their Marxist fellow travellers.
Their tactics of rudeness, intractability, intimidation & outright aggression are causing what might be termed "moderate" Labour members to walk away.
A not inconsiderable number of the most aggressive (especially towards female members) types also happen to belong to a certain minority not known for its political probity, especially in a constituency not a ritual stoning stone's throw from where she is.
This does not surprise me. As I said, the "No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite." ie I reckon they are dangerous so not sure why the disagree?
 
This does not surprise me. As I said, the "No danger from momentum message does not compute for me at the moment. Quite the opposite." ie I reckon they are dangerous so not sure why the disagree?
The disagree was for your previous post & specifically this part:

A cult for sure but still a potentially dangerous one. Perhaps he has a point in that taking them seriously gives them credence? (as a force for evil) Perhaps if we laugh at the bull in the china shop it won't break anything?
Failing to take these scum seriously could have a truly disastrous outcome for the UK (I'd bugger off to my already in place bolt-hole on t' other side of the Pond for a start...:wink: ).
People laughed at UKIP right up to the moment they took the most EU seats in 2014, followed by Cameron caving in to pressure for a Brexit referendum.
 
The disagree was for your previous post & specifically this part:



Failing to take these scum seriously could have a truly disastrous outcome for the UK (I'd bugger off to my already in place bolt-hole on t' other side of the Pond for a start...:wink: ).
People laughed at UKIP right up to the moment they took the most EU seats in 2014, followed by Cameron caving in to pressure for a Brexit referendum.
I'm pleased for you having a bolt hole :thumright: but it's of little solace to me if they get in. :ncool:
Maybe you didn't get the irony of laughing at a bull in a china shop and expecting no breakages? :scratch:
 
Confession time: my sister is a long time (as in 40+ years) member of the Labour Party.

Her constituency party branch (she's in London) is being overwhelmed by Momentum supporters & their Marxist fellow travellers.
Their tactics of rudeness, intractability, intimidation & outright aggression are causing what might be termed "moderate" Labour members to walk away.
A not inconsiderable number of the most aggressive (especially towards female members) types also happen to belong to a certain minority not known for its political probity, especially in a constituency not a ritual stoning stone's throw from where she is.
Just wonder where all these Momentum types have come from ? were they not in any previous political activity? or political itinerants moveing from left wing fringe party to another like Respect which I hear had folded up or just opportunists plus a few care in the community cases?
 
Confession time: my sister is a long time (as in 40+ years) member of the Labour Party.

Her constituency party branch (she's in London) is being overwhelmed by Momentum supporters & their Marxist fellow travellers.
Their tactics of rudeness, intractability, intimidation & outright aggression are causing what might be termed "moderate" Labour members to walk away.
A not inconsiderable number of the most aggressive (especially towards female members) types also happen to belong to a certain minority not known for its political probity, especially in a constituency not a ritual stoning stone's throw from where she is.
Ah the end justifies the means, power at any price...…..I find it amazing the Labour supporters capacity for self deceit. The Russia Today Reporter attending gender separated meetings, the token females making tea in the supreme soviet, don't shout gender parity to me.

YM
 
Ah the end justifies the means, power at any price...…..I find it amazing the Labour supporters capacity for self deceit. The Russia Today Reporter attending gender separated meetings, the token females making tea in the supreme soviet, don't shout gender parity to me.

YM
Labour are happy about having gender segregated meetings in Muslims areas of the UK, it's not sexist when Labour do it

Just the same as in Labour eyes tax avoidance is fine when the Guardian do it
 

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I hope that some enterprising reporter has a drone flying over this event to sh9w the real number of people attending rather than the squeezed together few looking like thousands!
 

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