Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

What? People still think a vote is secret? Any ballot paper (for the pedants: As used in a General election) can be tracked. The issue is, like many wibble headed fantasies about controlling the vote and punishing those who don't vote the right way is the amount of votes involved.

Hang on, I haven’t paid attention then. I thought you hand in the document allowing you a ballot, you receive an unidentifiable polling card (the one with all the twats’ names on), do your stuff with the blunt pencil & pop it in the box.


Is there a link between the two pieces of paper?

(Genuine question here. I’ve got “A” level politics. I take this stuff seriously).
 
No... this is what you said...
... but now you expect us to believe that you negotiated yourself a £500 day rise on top of whatever you were already getting for the ten days?

Are there any spare clouds in your very own patch of cuckoo land eh Bugsy Minor?

Oh dear.


I’m on contract. I get a day rate. I’m in the very lucky position of getting the day rate regardless of actual attendance (up to a point) as I’m ‘on call’ for a proportion of my time.

Hence, another contract requiring 5 days of site work and 5 days of writing -at £500 a day- is doable on top.


If you ask a passing 4 year old to do the sums for you it will save you taking your socks off.
 
Hang on, I haven’t paid attention then. I thought you hand in the document allowing you a ballot, you receive an unidentifiable polling card (the one with all the twats’ names on), do your stuff with the blunt pencil & pop it in the box.


Is there a link between the two pieces of paper?

(Genuine question here. I’ve got “A” level politics. I take this stuff seriously).
If memory serves there's a barcode or identifier number on the ballot paper. Also when you walk up to the people with the register they ID you (or not as the case may be), then they pass along a number to their co-workers who mark it in a book. This is a nice tidy paper trail that can, theoretically tie any ballot to anyone person.

Of course the conspiracy theorists will tell you its all crazy government/lizard control methods. But its not, there's a few problems with doing exactly that, chief amongst them is volume of votes, and knowing which ballot is in which bag (which are apparently stored for a year). It's also illegal to try to link a ballot paper to a person, without high court approval. Equally I suspect you'd need some for of evidence of irregularities or exceptional circumstances to even try.
But theoretically you can trace a ballot back, assuming you had access to the ballot papers and the relevant documents it would be matter of simplicity to cross reference the ballot ID number, with the name and Address of the person who cast it.
 
If memory serves there's a barcode or identifier number on the ballot paper. Also when you walk up to the people with the register they ID you (or not as the case may be), then they pass along a number to their co-workers who mark it in a book. This is a nice tidy paper trail that can, theoretically tie any ballot to anyone person.

Of course the conspiracy theorists will tell you its all crazy government/lizard control methods. But its not, there's a few problems with doing exactly that, chief amongst them is volume of votes, and knowing which ballot is in which bag (which are apparently stored for a year). It's also illegal to try to link a ballot paper to a person, without high court approval. Equally I suspect you'd need some for of evidence of irregularities or exceptional circumstances to even try.
But theoretically you can trace a ballot back, assuming you had access to the ballot papers and the relevant documents it would be matter of simplicity to cross reference the ballot ID number, with the name and Address of the person who cast it.


Hmmm. I’m going to give that a couple of coats of thinking-over.

Thanks.
 
You'd think the SJW warriors like Lily Allen would play for free, it's not like they need the money being filthy rich champagne socialists after all
In the workers' paradises socialist acts get subsidised by the state - but they have to stay on message.
Not enough loot in the people's coffers for that yet - the Party needs to get hold of the taxpayers money first.
 
I can see why nobody wants to live in Leeds, Bradford or Liverpoo but Cornwall is lovely.
Bits of Cornwall, much of it to be honest, are lovely. Outside of tourist season. But quite a lot of urban Cornwall, especially to the north, is pretty crap.
 
The one major flaw in that cunning plan today would be there are no EMPTY council houses to collect polling cards from!

Make everybody, everywhere produce ID to vote. End postal fraud by strictly limiting those who qualify for it. 'I work shifts/I'm out of the country' is not good enough. Swap your shift or vote at a consulate/embassy abroad. Severely disabled/In hospital/live in remote locations acceptable. Job jobbed and fair to all.

My old granny (really old) was severely disabled but she always turned up in person to vote. How so? She told the canvassers that she would vote Labour and Labour would send a car round to collect their voters to take to the polling station (no one elses mind). As far as I know she never ever voted Labour. Her opinions on things would make even me blush.
 
Hang on, I haven’t paid attention then. I thought you hand in the document allowing you a ballot, you receive an unidentifiable polling card (the one with all the twats’ names on), do your stuff with the blunt pencil & pop it in the box.


Is there a link between the two pieces of paper?

(Genuine question here. I’ve got “A” level politics. I take this stuff seriously).
You hand in your polling card, they check your name (ID etc...) then issue you with a voting slip by tearing it out of a book, in the book by the edge of the voting slip is a number, that's written next to your name in the electoral register.
Off you go to vote, turn the voting slip over and on the back is the same number they've just written next to your name so whatever you put on the voting slip is traceable back to you.
Hope that helps.

Edited to add:
Damn, beaten to it by Listy.
 
You hand in your polling card, they check your name (ID etc...) then issue you with a voting slip by tearing it out of a book, in the book by the edge of the voting slip is a number, that's written next to your name in the electoral register.
Off you go to vote, turn the voting slip over and on the back is the same number they've just written next to your name so whatever you put on the voting slip is traceable back to you.
Hope that helps.

Edited to add:
Damn, beaten to it by Listy.
Yeah, but you sound like you actually know what you're talking about.
 

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