Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

They are less than 1% of the greater Manchester population though, so they can be safely ignored.
In the greater scheme of things your are right, in general they are far too depressed to hold a block over a number of seats. To the majority of the UK voting populus it does not go far up the GAF meter but it does distract the Labour party from getting its message through on other topics.
 
They are less than 1% of the greater Manchester population though, so they can be safely ignored.
It’s beyond the number of Jewish voters now, the message is Corbyn is useless, does not do criticisms or any action contrary to the party line will be punished. He has been exposed yet again and this will reflect with the non traditional Labour voter, plus the Tories are assembling a mighty file for future use.
 
A bit like Labour ignore the working class because they're is more votes in chasing antisemitic Muslims
They ignore the working class because the stupid cnuts will continue to vote labour no matter what they say or do.
 
It’s beyond the number of Jewish voters now, the message is Corbyn is useless, does not do criticisms or any action contrary to the party line will be punished. He has been exposed yet again and this will reflect with the non traditional Labour voter, plus the Tories are assembling a mighty file for future use.
I don't think the majority of the country care about his views on Jews. Unfortunately as I keep saying people will vote for him on the basis he isn't a Tory.
 
I don't think the majority of the country care about his views on Jews. Unfortunately as I keep saying people will vote for him on the basis he isn't a Tory.
On that basis the public must be confused should they vote the center left party in government because it isn't a Tory party or the extreme left wing Labour Party
 
I don't think the majority of the country care about his views on Jews. Unfortunately as I keep saying people will vote for him on the basis he isn't a Tory.
I think we may start to see a change to that. In my area we would have anyone who had a red badge and with a 10-15k majority. Our local MP is good but not a JC lover and iI will be surprised if he does not get reelected next time. But I think the UKIP effect will become more prominent, not because people are voting UKIP but because UKIP caused them to vote outside the morm.
 
I think we may start to see a change to that. In my area we would have anyone who had a red badge and with a 10-15k majority. Our local MP is good but not a JC lover and iI will be surprised if he does not get reelected next time. But I think the UKIP effect will become more prominent, not because people are voting UKIP but because UKIP caused them to vote outside the morm.
Jezza isn't a fan of the EU though, If May accepts a shit deal that basically means we obey most if not all the rules of the EU, he'll hoover up the Brexit vote
 
Jezza isn't a fan of the EU though, If May accepts a shit deal that basically means we obey most if not all the rules of the EU, he'll hoover up the Brexit vote
Except he's backed himself into a corner and is pretending to like the EU to keep the remainers in his party happy

Brexit is dividing both parties, with the real irony like you state Corbyn is anti brexit but has to pretend to like the EU to keep the Labour remainers happy, whilst May is pro brexit but is having to pretend to be a brexiter because she's promised brexit and is beholden to the brexiters in her party
 
Except he's backed himself into a corner and is pretending to like the EU to keep the remainers in his party happy

Brexit is dividing both parties, with the real irony like you state Corbyn is anti brexit but has to pretend to like the EU to keep the Labour remainers happy, whilst May is pro brexit but is having to pretend to be a brexiter because she's promised brexit and is beholden to the brexiters in her party
But labour won't be the ones to push through a Brexit deal. That will be the conservatives who everyone will blame if it's shit
 
Except he's backed himself into a corner and is pretending to like the EU to keep the remainers in his party happy

Brexit is dividing both parties, with the real irony like you state Corbyn is anti brexit but has to pretend to like the EU to keep the Labour remainers happy, whilst May is pro brexit but is having to pretend to be a brexiter because she's promised brexit and is beholden to the brexiters in her party
Don't bloody care as long as we get the hell out and sharpish!

Plus May was looking at some damage from UKIP, if she doesn't do a good enough job UKIP could rise from its ashes and give her a malleting. If she gets a good enough, or even almost good enough result UKIP will be dead though.
 
If we're still in the EU the next time we come to an election, I can see it coming back to haunt the place.
Nope, not a cat in hell's chance: it was a one-trick pony that saw it's reason for existence vanish overnight as the referendum votes were counted.
 
Except he's backed himself into a corner and is pretending to like the EU to keep the remainers in his party happy

Brexit is dividing both parties, with the real irony like you state Corbyn is anti brexit but has to pretend to like the EU to keep the Labour remainers happy, whilst May is pro brexit but is having to pretend to be a brexiter because she's promised brexit and is beholden to the brexiters in her party


And our entire political world is hamstrung by this unnecessary crap for the next decade or more.

Oh well. At least it gives Dandruff Frog the chance to hoover up a bit of limelight.
 
The post you quoted was in response to a call for Proportional Representation. The system you describe is not PR. We already have the system you describe in use for local council elections, and it confuses people, and should be explained a lot better. We also have a hybrid fptp/PR system for the election of MSPs in Scotland where some seats are constituency seats, with voters voting directly for individuals, and some seats are allocated to parties, where the left-over votes for individuals are used to hand out seats to the party of those individuals, and the party decides (beforehand, by means of a list) who gets those seats, which means people can be elected without anyone voting for them.
AV is a more equitable system than FPTP & keeps representation tied to each constituency.
Not that I think this is as important as it seems, as most voters appear to make their choice on Party lines, rather than their representative's personal suitability (eg Diane Abbott)

We already have the system you describe in use for local council elections
Really?
Not here we don't.
 

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