Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

We don’t. Because Cameron stitched up Clegg over PR


We need proportional representation in the U.K. Nothing could be more obvious.


Trust me, I have ‘A’ level Politics.
Clegg behaved like an idiot over PR, refusing to agree the legislation unless he could appoint members of the upper house. Thus the whole bill failed.
 
Didn't take the JBOD long to issue a statement, what could possibly be detaining St Jeremy?
He is waiting for an email from Brenda who works for the NHS and has to use a food bank. Once Seamus ( sorry Brenda) emails the Dear Leader Corbyniski the 'official' people's party line he will Passover ( see what I did there?) to the Abbapotomus who in turn will hijack a debate and filibuster.
Then when everyone has either given up the will to live or the next GE is called,she may mention it in passing ( can't use the Passover twice or can I?)
 
What I read into it was that they were well prepared for the meeting. They will have been aware of the possible range of outcomes, and had probably drafted a variety of responses. They are probably the sort of people who, if they were making a train journey would have the foresight to book the requisite amount of adjacent seats beforehand.
The problem with that is they're more likely to get on the wrong train if something outside their preconceptions crops up to change the preferred destination.

Like wearing a pac-a-mac sat eating soggy chips in a Blackpool bus shelter when you could have been sunning yourself in Scarborough.
 
Going through the PDF an awful lot of those mentioned resigned from the party or were kicked out, some of the examples are POV from Tories, ie. the veil should not be allowed, thats an opinion.

I believe the various Jewish organisations have given the Labour party over 2000 names of Labour members who have expressed anti semantic views via social media. Of those 2000 the number acted upon is around 10%
Anti Semitic views as defined the the international holocaust remembrance alliance? See my previous position on that above
 
Last time round Maggie and, to a lesser extent, Tony crushed the hard left. This time, it might be more difficult. Lefties are so ingrained at the grassroots of the party that even a catastrophic loss at the next election might not unseat Jeremy. If it does, he might be replaced by an equally nutty fruitcake.
different ball game now. In fact I suspect TM sees an opportunity to split the Socialist movement and claim the broad territory for the Conservatives. In fact the one thing of note is just how quiet the Cons have gone over the issue and they have Foi as well as it's a cross party issue. You mentioned TB ( no not the disease) but of course darling Cherie was keen to support the Palestinan cause "It's perfectly understandable" she said and in a Historic context it is. But Labour is trying to serve two masters and forgetting their home roots. Expecting a supernova soon.
 
Anti Semitic views as defined the the international holocaust remembrance alliance? See my previous position on that above
A JLC and Board representative added: "This is a definition that has been accepted by the Welsh government, the Scottish government, by the police and the CPS and 120 local authorities, including those that are Labour controlled, and yet in this meeting the Labour leader and his General Secretary would not commit to adopting the IHRA definition in full."
 
However the number of allegations in your Unite document over a period of 20yrs comes in at just over 15% of the CURRENT and active allegations/suspensions in the Labour Party.
Bear in mind the Labour Party is running at 552,000 paid up members, the conservatives 150,000 (as of 2013)

As you pointed out "active allegations" many of which triggered by the IHRA definition of anti-semitism (which the British board of Jewish deputies are using) which includes criticism of Israeli policies towards Palestine

It could be argued that within the IHRA definition of anti semitism suggesting that the Israeli military policy of randomly shooting protesters with small Calibre rounds (as videoed by the Israeli army) is a bit out of order would be classed as anti-semitism
 
The problem with that is they're more likely to get on the wrong train if something outside their preconceptions crops up to change the preferred destination.

Like wearing a pac-a-mac sat eating soggy chips in a Blackpool bus shelter when you could have been sunning yourself in Scarborough.
With the modern Marxist Labour all trains lead to Auschwitz and Birkenau
 
Bear in mind the Labour Party is running at 552,000 paid up members, the conservatives 150,000 (as of 2013)

As you pointed out "active allegations" many of which triggered by the IHRA definition of anti-semitism (which the British board of Jewish deputies are using) which includes criticism of Israeli policies towards Palestine

It could be argued that within the IHRA definition of anti semitism suggesting that the Israeli military policy of randomly shooting protesters with small Calibre rounds (as videoed by the Israeli army) is a bit out of order would be classed as anti-semitism
So the Conservatives have had something in the region of 40% in the last 20yrs if the number of current allegations that Labour have and broadly the same number in 20 yrs as Labour have suspended in the last TWO WEEKS. Glad you think that isn’t a problem....... As above the IHRA definition is the standard definition as accepted by the large majority of statutory bodies and devolved governments within the U.K., including a Labour one. Why do Jeremy and Seamus have a problem with it?

Being critical of Israeli Army policy shouldn’t be viewed as anti-Semitic per se, but again that’s whataboutery as that isn’t what’s been happening in these cases is it? It’s been personal threats of rape and other abuse purely because people are Jewish.
 
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"It’s been personal threats of rape and other abuse purely because people are Jewish."

Isn't that enough? Do they have to be Jewish for it to be a problem? What happens when JBOD find evidence of the abuse of non Jews in investigations?
 
"It’s been personal threats of rape and other abuse purely because people are Jewish."

Isn't that enough? Do they have to be Jewish for it to be a problem? What happens when JBOD find evidence of the abuse of non Jews in investigations?
No they don’t, but not sure why JBOD would be investigating anything? Their issue is that Labour isn’t effectively investigating specifically allegations of anti semitism, and same raised recently have involved threats to rape.
 
"It’s been personal threats of rape and other abuse purely because people are Jewish."

Isn't that enough? Do they have to be Jewish for it to be a problem? What happens when JBOD find evidence of the abuse of non Jews in investigations?
Ahem
No they don’t, but not sure why JBOD would be investigating anything? Their issue is that Labour isn’t effectively investigating specifically allegations of anti semitism, and same raised recently have involved threats to rape.
surely it's a matter for the Police, not a political matter. This I'm more outraged than you is hardly a criteria in these matters and Political parties should keep out of legal matters. An offence is an offence to be investigated under due process and prosecuted as such.
 

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