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Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

Corbyn is a threat to this country and his ilk is relying on the lazy working class vote to give them power. Even though they are in opposition to the working class English.
At this point theGimp realised there was no hope for a balanced political discussion on arrse :mrgreen:
 
The Jewish boards of deputies seem to have had their meeting report firmly in place and ready to go as soon as the meeting was over. Read into that what you will...
What I read into it was that they were well prepared for the meeting. They will have been aware of the possible range of outcomes, and had probably drafted a variety of responses. They are probably the sort of people who, if they were making a train journey would have the foresight to book the requisite amount of adjacent seats beforehand.
 

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Be careful what you wish for, the last thing the Conservative party want or need is a microscope pointed in the direction of their members views and opinions on race especially in light of the windrush situation :mrgreen:



https://www.unitetheunion.org/uploaded/documents/(JN7434) A4 Tory Racism Brochure SIN11-26629.pdf

The “dossier” runs to 6 pages of examples and is fully referenced

The hypocrisy is astounding and the weight of the media leaning on Corbyn is huge and utterly disproportional, almost undemocratic (as it has been since he became party leader)
Classic deflection tactics, don't look at us, look at them. Be a lot better if they just dealt with their own internal issues.
 
What I read into it was that they were well prepared for the meeting. They will have been aware of the possible range of outcomes, and had probably drafted a variety of responses. They are probably the sort of people who, if they were making a train journey would have the foresight to book the requisite amount of adjacent seats beforehand.
Definitely seats on a train. No standing or sitting on the floor if there is room, definitely seats.... and a return ticket too...and back to thread...


Edited to add:
After I typed this I seriously wondered:


Is this a joke
Is this an anti-semitic joke?
Is this a joke on Labours organisational skills?
Is this highlighting an incident where JC was exposed as a lying politician?
Is this an ironic statement on Jewish organisational skills?
Is this highlighting an ironic anti-semitic statement by JC that this is how one travels on a train...?


I don't know but suddenly I wasn't sure about what I had written.
 
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What I read into it was that they were well prepared for the meeting. They will have been aware of the possible range of outcomes, and had probably drafted a variety of responses. They are probably the sort of people who, if they were making a train journey would have the foresight to book the requisite amount of adjacent seats beforehand.
I laughed because of the entertaining swipe at Corbyn and his train journeys.

But then felt dirty laughing because of some bad connotations in history of train journeys...

Excuse me whilst I over think this, I'll be in the fit birds in uniform room.
 
Just for clarity this is what’s happening.

1. A very few Labour machine people are guilty of either actual anti Semitism or stupid comments which make it arguable.

2. A substantial number of Labour members from Muslim backgrounds are stridently anti Israel, possibly racist anti Jew hiding behind this.

3. A great many Labour members (me included) have severe reservations about Israel’s moral high ground as a democracy (this isn’t the same as ‘supports the PLO/Hamas/ whoever terror campaigns’)

4. A number of actors with antipathy to Labour in general or Saint Jeremy in particular have frotted themselves in to an ecstasy by convincing various dullards that Labour is somehow a haven for Nazis.

5. If (a big ‘if’) Jezza has any sense he’s appearing content because he is fully aware that this is a PR rather than a real disaster-the ‘anti/Semitic Labour’ hysteria is built on sand and holds little electoral threat.
By Jove, Holmes! It's all an Evil Tory smear campaign, you say?

Quite remarkable.
 

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It’s a two way range, unfortunately the controlling range wardens in the Media are all conservative
Now it is the fault of the media! Is there anyone you won't blame before Saint Jezza is brought to account?
 
Be careful what you wish for, the last thing the Conservative party want or need is a microscope pointed in the direction of their members views and opinions on race especially in light of the windrush situation :mrgreen:



https://www.unitetheunion.org/uploaded/documents/(JN7434) A4 Tory Racism Brochure SIN11-26629.pdf

The “dossier” runs to 6 pages of examples and is fully referenced

The hypocrisy is astounding and the weight of the media leaning on Corbyn is huge and utterly disproportional, almost undemocratic (as it has been since he became party leader)
Classic whataboutery. The difference is that even UKIP very clearly and quickly kick out the lunatics. Labour don’t
 
This in my opinion is high level, high risk politicking which with hindsight the Jewish board of deputies will regret in the future
Why, do you think it'll be the Gulags for those of a Jewish persuasion should Labour get the keys o No 10?
 
Be careful what you wish for, the last thing the Conservative party want or need is a microscope pointed in the direction of their members views and opinions on race especially in light of the windrush situation :mrgreen:



https://www.unitetheunion.org/uploaded/documents/(JN7434) A4 Tory Racism Brochure SIN11-26629.pdf

The “dossier” runs to 6 pages of examples and is fully referenced

The hypocrisy is astounding and the weight of the media leaning on Corbyn is huge and utterly disproportional, almost undemocratic (as it has been since he became party leader)
Going through the PDF an awful lot of those mentioned resigned from the party or were kicked out, some of the examples are POV from Tories, ie. the veil should not be allowed, thats an opinion.

I believe the various Jewish organisations have given the Labour party over 2000 names of Labour members who have expressed anti semantic views via social media. Of those 2000 the number acted upon is around 10%
 
We don’t. Because Cameron stitched up Clegg over PR


We need proportional representation in the U.K. Nothing could be more obvious.


Trust me, I have ‘A’ level Politics.
Clegg behaved like an idiot over PR, refusing to agree the legislation unless he could appoint members of the upper house. Thus the whole bill failed.
 
Didn't take the JBOD long to issue a statement, what could possibly be detaining St Jeremy?
He is waiting for an email from Brenda who works for the NHS and has to use a food bank. Once Seamus ( sorry Brenda) emails the Dear Leader Corbyniski the 'official' people's party line he will Passover ( see what I did there?) to the Abbapotomus who in turn will hijack a debate and filibuster.
Then when everyone has either given up the will to live or the next GE is called,she may mention it in passing ( can't use the Passover twice or can I?)
 
What I read into it was that they were well prepared for the meeting. They will have been aware of the possible range of outcomes, and had probably drafted a variety of responses. They are probably the sort of people who, if they were making a train journey would have the foresight to book the requisite amount of adjacent seats beforehand.
The problem with that is they're more likely to get on the wrong train if something outside their preconceptions crops up to change the preferred destination.

Like wearing a pac-a-mac sat eating soggy chips in a Blackpool bus shelter when you could have been sunning yourself in Scarborough.
 
Going through the PDF an awful lot of those mentioned resigned from the party or were kicked out, some of the examples are POV from Tories, ie. the veil should not be allowed, thats an opinion.

I believe the various Jewish organisations have given the Labour party over 2000 names of Labour members who have expressed anti semantic views via social media. Of those 2000 the number acted upon is around 10%
Anti Semitic views as defined the the international holocaust remembrance alliance? See my previous position on that above
 
Last time round Maggie and, to a lesser extent, Tony crushed the hard left. This time, it might be more difficult. Lefties are so ingrained at the grassroots of the party that even a catastrophic loss at the next election might not unseat Jeremy. If it does, he might be replaced by an equally nutty fruitcake.
different ball game now. In fact I suspect TM sees an opportunity to split the Socialist movement and claim the broad territory for the Conservatives. In fact the one thing of note is just how quiet the Cons have gone over the issue and they have Foi as well as it's a cross party issue. You mentioned TB ( no not the disease) but of course darling Cherie was keen to support the Palestinan cause "It's perfectly understandable" she said and in a Historic context it is. But Labour is trying to serve two masters and forgetting their home roots. Expecting a supernova soon.
 

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