Comrade Corbyn to the fore - whither (or wither) the Labour Party?

I agree, it was much easier back then than it is now, salary/house price ratio etc.

It's fine saying I'm alright Jack, but that isn't going to win the votes of the younger generation
Plenty of young people buy their own houses. But they normally don't shout about it, those gobbing off the loudest tend to the bellthronks who think they are entitled to a cheap house.
 
Interesting reading here ...
Labour Future

Worth following just to see where THEY think they are going....
 
Interesting reading here ...
Labour Future

Worth following just to see where THEY think they are going....
A lot of hot air. Again Labour can show that true way forward comrade, just look at the success of the race track at Ebbw Vale.
The gaining of that capitalist vermin Aston Martin. The list goes on with the huge success in Wales.

My tounge might be in my cheek there, any "success" business has had noting to do with WAG.
 
Interesting reading here ...
Labour Future

Worth following just to see where THEY think they are going....
That front page is as funny as f**k. "reconnecting with the working class base" Whilst they're led by a coterie of Islington based Champagne socialists they have no chance, Pretty much the only reason Labour held as many seats as they did in the last GE is because huge swathes of the North vote Labour, even when dead. F**k all to do with the sainted prig in charge.
 
That front page is as funny as f**k. "reconnecting with the working class base" Whilst they're led by a coterie of Islington based Champagne socialists they have no chance, Pretty much the only reason Labour held as many seats as they did in the last GE is because huge swathes of the North vote Labour, even when dead. F**k all to do with the sainted prig in charge.
I'm currently sat next to where saint JC give his mumbling speech to the good people of Merthyr.
The crowd given red flags thought it a jolly good thing not aware what had happened 200 years and 200 yards away. These red flags got collected to be taken to Swansea for his next speech. Swansea was not involved in the chartist rising.

The crowd was made up of rent a gob followers. I work closely with disabilities in the area, the front rank of wheelchair users did not look familiar to me. One face I did not know fair enough but 15 odd, nah lefty gobs that adore the social model of disability.
 
I agree, it was much easier back then than it is now, salary/house price ratio etc.

It's fine saying I'm alright Jack, but that isn't going to win the votes of the younger generation
Plenty of young people buy their own houses. But they normally don't shout about it, those gobbing off the loudest tend to the bellthronks who think they are entitled to a cheap house.
Totally agree! I bought my own house recently after saving for nigh on 30 years and I did that by desperately not pissing everything up a wall on crap I didn't need and by saving everything I could even when I was being paid a pittance - you also need to be realistic on what type of property you actually need and also what you can afford - it's pretty simple if you can't afford the south east then move somewhere else! And if you only need 1 or2 beds then don't buy a house with 4 or 5! - a smaller cheaper house is less for council tax and heating bills etc


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Totally agree! I bought my own house recently after saving for nigh on 30 years and I did that by desperately not pissing everything up a wall on crap I didn't need and by saving everything I could even when I was being paid a pittance - you also need to be realistic on what type of property you actually need and also what you can afford - it's pretty simple if you can't afford the south east then move somewhere else! And if you only need 1 or2 beds then don't buy a house with 4 or 5! - a smaller cheaper house is less for council tax and heating bills etc


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I encourage my juniors to look at saving and buying a house at around their 5 year point then let some other mug pay their mortgage, some will have at least one (maybe more if they are clever) fully paid for house when they leave and some will be in the Sun newspaper complaining how the country doesnt look after Veterans.
 
Interesting reading here ...
Labour Future

Worth following just to see where THEY think they are going....
However, if the Labour Party is to win the next general election it must have sound economic policies that appeal to all and that enable us to carry out our radical programme
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/021716/why-ussr-collapsed-economically.asp

The early strength of the Soviet command economy was its ability to rapidly mobilize resources and direct them in productive activities that emulated those of advanced economies. Yet by adopting existing technologies rather than developing their own, the Soviet Union failed to foster the type of environment that leads to further technological innovation.
After experiencing a catch-up period with attendant high growth rates, the command economy began to stagnate in the 1970s. At this point, the flaws and inefficiencies of the Soviet system had become apparent. Rather than saving the economy, various piecemeal reforms instead only undermined the economy's core institutions. Gorbachev’s radical economic liberalization was the final nail in the coffin, with localized interests soon unraveling the fabric of a system founded on centralized control.
So he plans on taking the UK's liberal democacy into a centralized communist economy (Reverse USSR) with a fraction of the resources required to feed mouths as the USSR did.
Let's face it, who in their right mind from the food producing nations of the world are going to do business with a country that has no financial backing. The money will leave before McDonnell gets his mits into the pot and then.......they blame it all on the Tories.

Venezuala 2.0, Best buy my popcorn now is it might be hard to aquire.
 
From Corbyns team

In the last few days The Sun, The Mail, The Telegraph and The Express have gone a little bit James Bond.

We've got news for the billionaire, tax exile press barons: Change is coming.


So like all communist dictatorships a direct threat to the free press.

Go on TV, interviews what ever don’t threaten the press even if factually inaccurate, if so put up why it’s wrong, answear questioning but threats.
 

BuggerAll

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Why the USSR Collapsed Economically



So he plans on taking the UK's liberal democacy into a centralized communist economy (Reverse USSR) with a fraction of the resources required to feed mouths as the USSR did.
Let's face it, who in their right mind from the food producing nations of the world are going to do business with a country that has no financial backing. The money will leave before McDonnell gets his mits into the pot and then.......they blame it all on the Tories.

Venezuala 2.0, Best buy my popcorn now is it might be hard to aquire.
That is perhaps the greatest threat to our way of life but I’m also concerned about the loss of the ‘the special relationship’. I doubt if 5 eyes would survive the leadership of COB. I suspect we would be frozen out the second it looked like COB’s Labour has even the remotest possibility of being voted in.
 
From Corbyns team

In the last few days The Sun, The Mail, The Telegraph and The Express have gone a little bit James Bond.

We've got news for the billionaire, tax exile press barons: Change is coming.

So like all communist dictatorships a direct threat to the free press.

Go on TV, interviews what ever don’t threaten the press even if factually inaccurate, if so put up why it’s wrong, answear questioning but threats.
It's about the only thing I'd support Corbyn on. Currently the media, not just the newspapers, seem to believe it's their right to make or decide what's the news. Brexit and politicians of all hues fall readily to hand, as does anything to do with LGBT, women and Manchester blinkin City.
 
It's about the only thing I'd support Corbyn on. Currently the media, not just the newspapers, seem to believe it's their right to make or decide what's the news. Brexit and politicians of all hues fall readily to hand, as does anything to do with LGBT, women and Manchester blinkin City.
If the Great Helmsman believes that his reputation has been defamed by libellous statements, he can always sue.

I wonder if he will?

Do you think he will?

No?

Me neither.
 
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It's about the only thing I'd support Corbyn on. Currently the media, not just the newspapers, seem to believe it's their right to make or decide what's the news. Brexit and politicians of all hues fall readily to hand, as does anything to do with LGBT, women and Manchester blinkin City.
Fine go on TV, press interviews, answear proper questions, but to threaten is not the solution.
 
From Corbyns team

In the last few days The Sun, The Mail, The Telegraph and The Express have gone a little bit James Bond.

We've got news for the billionaire, tax exile press barons: Change is coming.

So like all communist dictatorships a direct threat to the free press.

Go on TV, interviews what ever don’t threaten the press even if factually inaccurate, if so put up why it’s wrong, answear questioning but threats.
Is it me but with a reaction like this, it looks he's really worried this could spill over.....
 
Is it me but with a reaction like this, it looks he's really worried this could spill over.....
Well, it mustn't. And in order to prevent that,
The party said it would also carry out a review “to safeguard a healthy plurality of media ownership and to put in place clearer rules on who is fit and proper to own or run TV and radio stations”.
i.e. If you don't measure up to a political standard, you can't own or run an outlet of any section of the media. Whew. The BBC's in the clear.
 

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If the Great Helmsman believes that his reputation has been defamed by libellous statements, he can always sue.

I wonder if he will?

Do you think he will?

No?

Me neither.
'nothing to hide, nothing to fear'.
 
I encourage my juniors to look at saving and buying a house at around their 5 year point then let some other mug pay their mortgage, some will have at least one (maybe more if they are clever) fully paid for house when they leave and some will be in the Sun newspaper complaining how the country doesnt look after Veterans.

The dullest gonk on my trade training course at Loughborough bought several houses late 80s, each one mortgaged on the rent income from the last. I think smoke and mirrors with income for lenders was easier then.


Retired at 38 with over a dozen houses, each with 4 or 5 students in, only 4 houses still on mortgage. Sold the lot to some massive letting company.


Ok so we had more fun than him in our early twenties as he was mending showers and paying mortgages, but I suspect he’s the cleverer one


Plus he must have made a bomb from web feeds on all them student birds.
 

BuggerAll

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Online dictionary defines nonentity as “a person or thing with no special or interesting qualities; an unimportant person or thing.”

I’d say the first half fits Cob. Unfortunately he isn’t unimportant in the same way that a turd blocking your toilet isn’t unimportant.
 
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