Compulsory social care bill plan

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  1. So, we pay Taxes and National Insurance Contributions for all of our working lives, but when we reach old age and may have the audacity to need that little bit of extra care, we are now faced with the prospect of having to pay yet another Tax to receive what we have already paid for.

    I dare say that it'll all end up in the same pot that funds the bone idle and keeps them in fags, booze and drugs..

    Compulsory social care bill plan

    People in England may be forced to pay as much as £20,000 on retirement to help fund the social care system under plans being put forward by ministers.

    It is one of three options being proposed by the government alongside top-ups and insurance.

    In return, the government said a certain amount of social care would be provided free to everyone, while accommodation costs could be deferred. Read More...
     
  2. Those of us that are working...we are lucky enough to pay and then pay some more!
    (no offence to those that are lucky enough to have already retired after working,or those unable to work through no fault of their own)

    This bunch of tossers in power just want to look as though they care.
    If they all took a ten percent pay cut ,instead of their proposed rise,.....it still wouldn't make me happy.

    W**KERS the lot of them!
     
  3. The fundamental flaw in the welfare state was that it started off paying for people who'd never paid in. Everyone since has paid for the upkeep of the generation before, not themselves. We're reaping the benefits (no pun intended) of our falling birth-rate.

    It's hard to see, though, how the government at the time could have said to a generation that had just fought WW2, "Sorry, but your parents and you can just fuck off until the subs are paid."
     
  4. We all know that it's a big ponzi scheme but the flaws are that it is paying out money to idle feckers that have never done a days work in their life.

    As property prices exceed the incomes of more and more people, more people are now living in the family home for longer and longer. So taking that into account, when the olds need more care and are forced to move into a home, where is the rest of the family meant to live when the house has to be sold to pay for that care..?

    My Nan moved into a home that cost £550 a week. You tell me where it costs £550 for a 93 year old to sit in a bed and eat one tea spoon of soup a day...!

    If the Government hadn't pisssed it all away by handing out free money to every fcuking cnut that either can't be arrsed to work, or to all those that have managed to Yomp across half the world and through all of Europe to come here to claim asylum, then there would be enough money left in the pot to provide the care that people who have worked all their life and paid taxes deserve.
     
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    My Nan moved into a home that cost £550 a week. You tell me where it costs £550 for a 93 year old to sit in a bed and eat one tea spoon of soup a day...!

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    Well instead of whinging about it do what I did...took my my nan..(who when i was a child taught me to read, write, manners, the value and not the price of everything ,wiped my b*m and was convinced that the sunshine beamed out of it every morning) into my home and looked after her till she 'passed' on...'n' yes we had kids, small house, it was difficult..the smell of poo 'n' wee was prevalent...guess she must have felt the same way about mine 40+ yrs ago.. :x ..but we got through it. I took her pension and everything that she/I were entiltled to..kids felt her love, saw the reality of old age/death, we had extra income, moral job done....
     
  6. Well instead of whinging about it do what I did...took my my nan..(who when i was a child taught me to read, write, manners, the value and not the price of everything ,wiped my b*m and was convinced that the sunshine beamed out of it every morning) into my home and looked after her till she 'passed' on...'n' yes we had kids, small house, it was difficult..the smell of poo 'n' wee was prevalent...guess she must have felt the same way about mine 40+ yrs ago.. :x ..but we got through it. I took her pension and everything that she/I were entiltled to..kids felt her love, saw the reality of old age/death, we had extra income, moral job done....[/quote]

    Bit hard really as she died 5 years ago. You are very correct in your ethic of people looking after there own families, but this country just ain't set up to do that.

    My whole point is that we pay our taxes our whole lives, even those that don't work pay Stealth Taxes, so why the fcuk should we then have to pay more taxes just because we're old and in need of more help? Would they dare to charge Fat Cnuts extra taxes for their health care? Would they dare to refuse smokers, drinkers and the obeses care on the national health? No. So why should someone whose been frugal and carefull be expected to pay extra taxes just because they didn't smoke, fill their fat faces or pisss it up against the wall for all their lives..?
     
  7. Just tax by another name.

    Options are: spend all your savings having fun, or do what Brown's 'client voters' do which is don't save.
     
  8. The reality (and you really ain't going to like this) is that we need massive immigration so that the working to non-working ratio is maintained at about 4:1 that way there'll be sufficient funding for everyone's old age. I told you you wouldn't like it!
     
  9. Out of the people you outline above, think on who would vote for what party, and there may lie the answer.

    Politicians motto "Don't be scared to piss off people who would never vote for us".
     
  10. Which is health enhancing in and of itself. I think you either make the money or you don't. I've read of too many people over 80 leading full active lives to be overly pessimistic about the future when subjects like this come up.
     
  11. What a total load of bollox.

    Prey tell, when do we stop importing these workers then? When the island sinks?

    The immigrants get old you know.... :roll:
     
  12. :D
     
  13. Why do we need immigration (except for a few specialists), when we have 3 million unemployed?
     
  14. :D :D
     
  15. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    I think you mean migrant workers rather immigrants - one working bloke with 5 kids, a wife and a granny with him is not going to improve the ratio......