Sorry to pull this topic up yet again but just after a little advice. Im currently using the NI patrol pack which is very nice, but its a bit bulky and doesnt pack down easily into the bergen, so im in the market for one thats a bit easier. Somebody posted a link a link to a Snatch bag on this same subject, is it any good? Id be looking at possibly putting padding on those shoulder straps, but has anybody used one and know how rugged it is? Also an old SSM used a daysack that seemed nothing more than a sack with a flap on it and is exactly what I'm after. I'm sure it was made by Karrimor or one of the big names like that. I've been rooting around kit sites and ebay for it but cant find one, does anybody know of it?