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Compensation for Deafness due to the SLR

GDav said:
Always get the claim in is right because even though the attributabke condition may not be pensionable now it could deteriorate and you may need all the help you can get.

Yes, it's wise to get something by way of a claim onto the files without delay, against the day when that specific condition may become a pensionable one. By which time, of course, it may well have deteriorated.
 
E-Layer said:
HE117 said:
If you shoot right handed, your right ear is pressed against the stock and is protected.

Did you ever pass an APWT in this position?

Yep... Marksman every time.. :D


OK .. so my ear is not completely pressed to the stock, however it IS more protected from the muzzle, and it is your left ear that is vulnerable (Believe me I know..!)
 
Double_Duck said:
bluebell_49_echo said:
I Claimed in 1991 from the DSS now Veterans Agency receieved £3500 and pronounced 14% disabled , This was accepted because in the 60s 70s the ear defender issued was found to be sub-standard. I still have the ringing in the ears.


I can honestly say that was never given any kind of ear defenders during the time i served (78-84) and since i began my service in the RA on the guns firing charge Super as well as the SLR you would think that some form of ear protection would have come in handy..

Utter Bollix....

Earplugs were mandatory from 1969 onwards - initially they were rubber mouldings which came in three sizes - yellow, green and red. They were then replaced by the expanding yellow jobbies

Ear defenders were mandated sometime in the seventies. Initially for the 84 and 81mm mortar, and subsequenty for all shooting.

Ear defenders were required on the gun position from at least the mid seventies. All Abbot crews had induction loop headsets (thought they never worked).

So I don't know what micky mouse outfit you were in but they must have had a blind (and certainly deaf) IG...

My deafness was caused by sporting shooting where until recently you did not wear ear defence... I'm suffering now!

There is no excuse for ANYONE who has served in the past 30 years not to have protected their hearing on the range..
 
Humpmaster said:
I claimed with the help of the RBL, had a hearing test but because my hearing had only deteriorated by less than 20% was uneligible for a pension or compensation. RBL is the best start they will help with everything. There is a place in Tidworth near the college.

I fully agree. Ring them on 020 7973 7215 or else I see they can now be contacted on the ARRSE website via the Charites and Welfare forum sponsor's link. :1:
 
HE117 said:
Double_Duck said:
bluebell_49_echo said:
I Claimed in 1991 from the DSS now Veterans Agency receieved £3500 and pronounced 14% disabled , This was accepted because in the 60s 70s the ear defender issued was found to be sub-standard. I still have the ringing in the ears.


I can honestly say that was never given any kind of ear defenders during the time i served (78-84) and since i began my service in the RA on the guns firing charge Super as well as the SLR you would think that some form of ear protection would have come in handy..

Utter Bollix....

Earplugs were mandatory from 1969 onwards - initially they were rubber mouldings which came in three sizes - yellow, green and red. They were then replaced by the expanding yellow jobbies

Ear defenders were mandated sometime in the seventies. Initially for the 84 and 81mm mortar, and subsequenty for all shooting.

Ear defenders were required on the gun position from at least the mid seventies. All Abbot crews had induction loop headsets (thought they never worked).

So I don't know what micky mouse outfit you were in but they must have had a blind (and certainly deaf) IG...

My deafness was caused by sporting shooting where until recently you did not wear ear defence... I'm suffering now!

There is no excuse for ANYONE who has served in the past 30 years not to have protected their hearing on the range..


Except the guy who removed his double ear defence in order to communicate with a chieftian commander via the external intercom (the elasticated telephone used for target indications on the ground) & had it fire a 120MM as he did so!

(Batus cira 1983)
 
fingers_1661 said:
HE117 said:
Double_Duck said:
bluebell_49_echo said:
I Claimed in 1991 from the DSS now Veterans Agency receieved £3500 and pronounced 14% disabled , This was accepted because in the 60s 70s the ear defender issued was found to be sub-standard. I still have the ringing in the ears.


I can honestly say that was never given any kind of ear defenders during the time i served (78-84) and since i began my service in the RA on the guns firing charge Super as well as the SLR you would think that some form of ear protection would have come in handy..

Utter Bollix....

Earplugs were mandatory from 1969 onwards - initially they were rubber mouldings which came in three sizes - yellow, green and red. They were then replaced by the expanding yellow jobbies

Ear defenders were mandated sometime in the seventies. Initially for the 84 and 81mm mortar, and subsequenty for all shooting.

Ear defenders were required on the gun position from at least the mid seventies. All Abbot crews had induction loop headsets (thought they never worked).

So I don't know what micky mouse outfit you were in but they must have had a blind (and certainly deaf) IG...

My deafness was caused by sporting shooting where until recently you did not wear ear defence... I'm suffering now!

There is no excuse for ANYONE who has served in the past 30 years not to have protected their hearing on the range..


Except the guy who removed his double ear defence in order to communicate with a chieftian commander via the external intercom (the elasticated telephone used for target indications on the ground) & had it fire a 120MM as he did so!

(Batus cira 1983)

I must be one of the lucky ones then, I served on tanks from 79 for nearly 20 years. When Chieftain came with larkspur (great headset) no exhaust/scliencer box fitted (came later). Been next to them firing, with ear plugs, amplivox & no ear protection after all that & according to the quacks I have perfect hearing 8O Everyone is different I suppose & should be treated accordingly, I to at the 'moment' not into or agree with the claim culture'. But who knows in years to come when my skin starts to drop off because we were never aware of the problems with the oils and other nasty liquids we had on board. I might think again :?
 
HE117 said:
Double_Duck said:
bluebell_49_echo said:
I Claimed in 1991 from the DSS now Veterans Agency receieved £3500 and pronounced 14% disabled , This was accepted because in the 60s 70s the ear defender issued was found to be sub-standard. I still have the ringing in the ears.


I can honestly say that was never given any kind of ear defenders during the time i served (78-84) and since i began my service in the RA on the guns firing charge Super as well as the SLR you would think that some form of ear protection would have come in handy..

Utter Bollix....

Earplugs were mandatory from 1969 onwards - initially they were rubber mouldings which came in three sizes - yellow, green and red. They were then replaced by the expanding yellow jobbies

Ear defenders were mandated sometime in the seventies. Initially for the 84 and 81mm mortar, and subsequenty for all shooting.

Ear defenders were required on the gun position from at least the mid seventies. All Abbot crews had induction loop headsets (thought they never worked).

So I don't know what micky mouse outfit you were in but they must have had a blind (and certainly deaf) IG...

My deafness was caused by sporting shooting where until recently you did not wear ear defence... I'm suffering now!

There is no excuse for ANYONE who has served in the past 30 years not to have protected their hearing on the range..

I was issued brown rubber earplugs in 1975. These were subsequently withdrawn due to claims that when used in the vicinity of big bangs, they tended to dive into the ear canal. Ruptured eardrum and trip to hospital to have the earplugs removed was the supposed result.

These were replaced by the yellow foam earplugs that civvy contractors wear today (with no great worries). I gather that the Army stance was that they were insufficiently effective (probably because they were supplied without instructions and could regularly be found hanging out of people's ears, rather than compressed and inserted fully into the ear canal) and were unhygienic (dirt from grubby fingers was pushed into the ear by those who knew how to work them - of course, the issue was 1 pair and it was expected that the soldier would wash them).

Amplivoxes of every hue under the sun became de rigeur on the TA mortar line, having been purloined from work. If Post Office Telephones only knew just how much of their stuff was redirected into the defence of the nation.....
 
putteesinmyhands said:
Amplivoxes of every hue under the sun became de rigeur on the TA mortar line, having been purloined from work. If Post Office Telephones only knew just how much of their stuff was redirected into the defence of the nation.....

I'd wear the issued amplivox AND diaphragm-type ear plugs as I've no wish to have tinnitus caused by the might 81. When at Warminster some blokes extracted the proverbial until the DS ( Jamie ) announced he wished he'd worn two sets as he suffered from permanent tinnitus.

No further comments where made.
 
Holdfast_RE said:
I've just heard a rumour going round that compenstation for partial deafness due to the old SLR is fixed at £5k.

Anyone know anything, or is it still better to apply for a war pension when your colour service runs out? :?

I take it digital cameras don't affect your hearing


I suppose taking a full active roll in your unit means you're a cook with the advantage of a university education.
 
I was told at DCU Belfast by the specialist ENT that anybody serving pre 90 (when we were issued them brown rubber defenders) depending on the severity (I was H2-H2) that the MOD had totally accepted responsibility for this (after 2 operations on my ear and no difference) so my claim will be going in once I finish in September. I was also told when I went on the ranges and firing the SA80 that I should wear the yellow ear defenders and then the amplivox ear defenders over the top as well so firing the SA80 is like firing a pea shooter compared to firing the SLR.
 
[quote="HE117
Earplugs were mandatory from 1969 onwards - initially they were rubber mouldings which came in three sizes - yellow, green and red. They were then replaced by the expanding yellow jobbies

Ear defenders were mandated sometime in the seventies. Initially for the 84 and 81mm mortar, and subsequenty for all shooting.

I was at Queens Div Depot in Sep 72 and we were given cotton wool on occasion, or even told to put 4x2 in our ears on the ranges. The rubber plugs were issued and then withdrawn aftet someone got them jammed in their ear canal. When firing the Energa Grenade and the Charli G we were given Amplivox, but during Field Firing we were actually ordered to remove any protection as you "had to hear fire control orders etc"! Late on as a WOMBAT Gunner I regularly used Amplivox but have a long recorded hearing loss which prevents me hearing high tones.
 
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