Communist Plots and Infiltration

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  1. (Not sure if this should be here, change it if neccessery MOD's)


    In several threads members have blamed the current state of UK plc and the the Armed Forces on a plot by communists(?) infiltrating into the Labour party and trying to bring us down from the inside.

    Is this possible? Or is it just the fact that the head shed are a bunch of tw@ts that realy shouldnt be trusted to run a bath let alone a country.

    If it is true who would be behind such a ploy? Russia (the Ghost of the USSR?). Perhaps France are getting back at us for being so smug over the last 250 years.

    We all agree that were going to hell in a hand basket thanks to NU-Labour but is because of incompatence or something more devious?
  2. Somehow I doubt the current state of affairs is the climax of a ten-year-old plot; more likely a bunch of retards who dabbled in left-wing politics at university and have never had real jobs have now unfortunately been placed in power.

    ARRSE for PM :p
  3. The last time we had a Labour government it ended badly too. Prolonged strikes. Uncollected rubbish and unburied bodies. Power cuts.

    Socialism just doesn't work on large scales, never has. On the surface, it can sound good, but it's ultimately just a way of winning a popularity contest with other people's money.

    Whilst I don't agree with the theories, I have personal respect for some former Labour politicians (like the Atlee govt), I really do believe that their hearts were in the right place.

    This lot are taking a flawed set of economic theories, mixing in an awful lot of misguided and foolish social engineering dreamed up in the 60s and magnifying the harmful effects by personal cowardice and dishonesty and a degree of corruption.

    There's no 'infiltration' involved as such. The Labour party are what they say they are. It's just if you analyse what they believe in carefully, it was possible to predict that we'd arrive at a point like this.
  4. Marge: I really think this is a bad idea.
    Homer: Marge, I agree with you -- in theory. In theory, communism
    works. In theory.
    -- Pros and cons of keeping the elephant, "Bart Gets an Elephant"
  5. Wot Bravo_Zulu said, only with some of them, their politics are still commie anyway. (Tries to hide Deep South rebel flag behind curtains).
  6. Several members of the current Labour government were at university at a time when admiration of the Soviet Union and it's former eastern European satellite states was widespread with those of the 'progressive' Left.

    The manifestation of this is the fact now these people have risen to cabinet ministeral positions in the present government they are attempting to supress freedoms in Britain in order to create a communist state.

    One case in point has to be the present Home Secretary.

    To go further Mandleson was a former Communist Party member.

    Communisn is a very dangerous creed and those who seek it's imposition in Britain are still at work.
  7. On a semi related note, 3 Russians using false Belgian passports were lifted in Austria trying to bug the new Typhoon simulator facility Yesterday.....good old Ivan.
  8. The Russians actually increased their espionage efforts after the cold war ended.

    Presently,the West faces a very high espionage threat from Russia(and for that matter,China).The Russian espionage budget has never been higher than it is now.

    Industrial espionage makes up a large proportion of this.
  9. I wish to God the communists had infiltrated the banks: we'd all be a lot better off. Unrestricted capitalism has turned out to a economic system with the inherent strength and safety of a tissue paper condom. We're all going to spend the rest of our lives trying to clean up the mess left by a bunch of absconding billionaires who have long since flown their executive jets into Israeli airspace and vanished.

    And you want to blame the Kremlin!

    We were taken for suckers by fcukers, that's true, but the fcukers all operated out of Wall Street, aided and abetted by hordes of politicians greased up like pigs in a church fete bacon catching contest.
  10. seaweed

    seaweed LE Book Reviewer

    MI5 had a card on Michael Foot in 1940. In power he tried to undermine and wreck the introduction of containers into the shipping industry. Wilson banned MI5 from investigating MPs.
  11. ""blamed the current state of UK plc and the the Armed Forces on a plot by communists""

    Well for one thing, if commie politco are anything like the fools we have here, then not a chance.
    The single thing about each member of the British Cabinet that stands out is the fact that none have ever served in the Armed Forces. They are either Accountants or Advocates, no engineers, scientists, and even the ships waiter has gone.
  12. witch hunt is "an intensive effort to discover and expose disloyalty, subversion, dishonesty, or the like, usually based on slight, doubtful, or irrelevant evidence", also a trusted diversion...
  13. We're just a small island, meddled with, corrupted, exploited and abused.
    The horse has long bolted perhaps. Communists? Aren't they supposed to want the establishment of a peaceful, free society, without classes, capitalism, or government? Hasn't worked then , has it?

    Communists might be just one group amongst hundreds we've cultivated.

    You could look elsewhere for the reasons which have steadily corroded British social values, identity and morals. Perhaps look among mischievous people in our big institutions, private and public, that wield British policy, money and power. What's the biggest threat to us since the Nazis , would you say?
  14. Someone above mentioned present day cabinet members who 'were' communists - they forgot the frantic brown-nosing Darling!
  15. If there is a plan it is not a conspiracy. It would be based on the predictability of Blair, Straw etc. The plan would be to exploit their folly. But the state UK is in who would want to take it over ?

    Didn't Kaiser Bill's advisers tell him in 1912 there was no need for a war it would not alter the timescale. UK would sink under the "White man's burden" by the end of the century.

    In the 1950s Airey Neave tried to beat a drum that the Cold War would be settled by the quantity of expertise. (Russia had said it would train more engineers than the West and that would be the currency that decided the outcome whatever economic glitches occurred along the way)

    Airey was one to know. With MI14 he was helping recruit useful Nazi scientists to make up a tad for our own expertise shortages. In time he became constituency MP for where many of them were working. (Nuclear research).

    The thing is that Prince Anton Turkul was running the Vatican ratlines for escaping but useful Nazis. Well he was a Soviet agent putting his assets into the ratlines. Russia regarded him as so important they were prepared to sacrifice Kim Philby if it was necessary to protect Turkul's cover.

    Philby was debriefing the Nazis

    So all in all it was a Soviet agent running the show and a Soviet agent helping out.

    I had to laugh when that Buteyko breathing was made known to the West "After the Cold War"

    The science of the Russian physio technique is based on the submarine atmosphere survival research of the British scientist Haldane. The Russians have been employing it is drug free treatment for 129 illnesses since 1952.

    Haldane's research is still classified Top Secret in UK isn't it ?

    What did Kipling call it ? "The great game"