Communist inflitration in Britain today,fact or paranoia?

#1
Is Britain and various branches of government and the civil service being infiltrated by communists at the behest of Labour with the old stated aim of the left of destroying Britain as a free and democratic country?

The examples of unlimited immigration and political appointments of Gaurdianistas to the judicary and police point to the country being undermined by stealth.

Total subserviance to the unelected bureaucrats of Brussels could be another example.

The fact that Peter Mandleson is a former(read still closet?) communist could be a pointer th the hidden agenda of Liarbore.

Comments?
 
#3
No. Despite New Labour often being incompetent and damaging they are not communists nor would they welcome communists.

I think that tinfoil hat may have been on there a little too long.
 
#4
No.
Not even the inefficient, corrupt Soviet Comunist regime were as usless and misguided as this lot
 
#9
Based on the following,I would say no.


com·mu·nism (kmy-nzm)
n.
1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labour for the common advantage of all members.

2. Communism
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
b. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.

With thanks to The Free Online Dictionary.
 
#10
Le_addeur_noir said:
Is Britain and various branches of government and the civil service being infiltrated by communists at the behest of Labour with the old stated aim of the left of destroying Britain as a free and democratic country?
Wherever do/did you get the idea that Communism/Socialism is about destroying freedom and democracy in any country? Quite apart from the fact that the present clowns in the UK seem to be making a very good job of that without the assistance of the "Kommernist".

MsG
 
#11
As opposed to the place some people think we live in

u·to·pi·a (y-tp-)
n.
1.
a. often Utopia An ideally perfect place, especially in its social, political, and moral aspects.
b. A work of fiction describing a utopia.
2. An impractical, idealistic scheme for social and political reform.

With thanks to the Free Online Dictionary
 
#12
NO
communists are many things but if Nulabour were commie One thing the military would not be complaining would be a lack of cash or kit.

real commies given the choice between diversity officers and bin policemen

or tanks and aks will always choose tanks and guns :twisted:

Er you've sent me 2000 consripts of the 1st asbo rifles and 20 commisars but only enough rations and ammo for 200?
problem the rest will be dead shortly :twisted:
 

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#13
Today it's paranoia, there are far worse threats to the UK than communism at the moment. Up until 20 years ago - no, not paranoia at all. I've been reading the MI5 official history, and it's pretty eye-opening, particularly when you see how many Labour Party and TU leaders were in the pay of the Russians. Mostly they weren't doing it for honour, or idealism, but for cash. What treasonous, hypocritical Hoons.

From the 1920's up until the cold war, communism wasn't considered that much of a threat - at least not compared to fascism - and thus a lot of communist spies were able to get into the security services. We were paying for that laxness until the '70s. And by 'paying' I mean men and women in Europe and beyond were being murdered, imprisoned, and tortured directly due to the activities of communist spies in the British establishment - now that wasn't paranoia, that was what happened at the time.

Hopefully, now that the world has realised that socialism and communism simply do not work as effective systems of government, there will never again be a threat to the UK from a foreign communist regime. But you never know. It probably pays to be a bit paranoid in certain circumstances - I mean, no-one ever thinks that Trident will get used in anger - but it's foolish to discard it.
 
#14
OldSnowy said:
Today it's paranoia, there are far worse threats to the UK than communism at the moment. Up until 20 years ago - no, not paranoia at all. I've been reading the MI5 official history, and it's pretty eye-opening, particularly when you see how many Labour Party and TU leaders were in the pay of the Russians. Mostly they weren't doing it for honour, or idealism, but for cash. What treasonous, hypocritical Hoons.

From the 1920's up until the cold war, communism wasn't considered that much of a threat - at least not compared to fascism - and thus a lot of communist spies were able to get into the security services. We were paying for that laxness until the '70s. And by 'paying' I mean men and women in Europe and beyond were being murdered, imprisoned, and tortured directly due to the activities of communist spies in the British establishment - now that wasn't paranoia, that was what happened at the time.

Hopefully, now that the world has realised that socialism and communism simply do not work as effective systems of government, there will never again be a threat to the UK from a foreign communist regime. But you never know. It probably pays to be a bit paranoid in certain circumstances - I mean, no-one ever thinks that Trident will get used in anger - but it's foolish to discard it.
It was only right and proper that the truly awful State Capitalism systems in the former Soviet Union and the rest of the eastern block were resisted and finally overcome. This will, hopefully, pave the way for genuine Socialism, since folks are, quite justifiably, getting pissed off with cutthroat Capitalism too, and looking for something that's more humane and equitable in society.

MsG
 
#15
I'm going to go and make myself a cup of tea.

tea (t)
n.
1.
a. An eastern Asian evergreen shrub or small tree (Camellia sinensis) having fragrant, nodding, cup-shaped white flowers and glossy leaves.
b. The young, dried leaves of this plant, prepared by various processes and used to make a hot beverage.
2. An aromatic, slightly bitter beverage made by steeping tea leaves in boiling water.
3. Any of various beverages, made as by steeping the leaves of certain plants or by extracting an infusion especially from beef.
4. Any of various plants having leaves used to make a tealike beverage.
5. A tea rose.
6. Chiefly British
a. An afternoon refreshment consisting usually of sandwiches and cakes served with tea.
b. High tea.
7. An afternoon reception or social gathering at which tea is served.
8. Slang Marijuana.
 
#16
Having just read " Defence of the Realm" it states that even Jesus had a traitor in his group, this means that 1in12 is somone who cannot be trusted, and as quite a few members of the cabinet were members of commy,marxist groups in their youth there is a good chance that there is a traitor in their midst,whether an actual spy or just a cnut like Cyclops
 
#18
What does Mandelson mean when he says we are now in 'The Post Democratic' age?

Do some reading, I mean serious reading not the stories in National Review or The Sun. Read about 'The Frankfurt School'. Investigate the background of some of our existing Cabinet Ministers. Investigate the co-relationship of the left wing and militant Islam.

Make your own mind up.
 
#19
Bugsy said:
Wherever do/did you get the idea that Communism/Socialism is about destroying freedom and democracy in any country? Quite apart from the fact that the present clowns in the UK seem to be making a very good job of that without the assistance of the "Kommernist".
Has there ever been a Communist country that wasn't also a single party dictatorship?
 
#20
jimmys_best_mate said:
Bugsy said:
Wherever do/did you get the idea that Communism/Socialism is about destroying freedom and democracy in any country? Quite apart from the fact that the present clowns in the UK seem to be making a very good job of that without the assistance of the "Kommernist".
Has there ever been a Communist country that wasn't also a single party dictatorship?
There's never been a Communist/Socialist country anywhere, Jimmy's_bezzer. All of them were/are State Capitalist countries with brutal, oppressive regimes, and, yes, they were all single-party dictatorships.

Just because they called/call themselves "Communist" or "Socialist" doesn't' mean that they were/are. Look how many countries call themselves "democracies" but aren't and never have been.

MsG
 

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