Commissioned into the RGR

#1
Sorry if a question like this has already been posted, but I was wondering (just out of curiosity) how hard it is to be commissioned into the RGR. How many officers per term get commissioned? I am assuming they would need to have a very good report from Sandhurst, and be at the top of the in take...is this correct? I am asking becuase I know that the RGR is not your normal infantry regiment, and I was just wondering how hard it is to get commissioned. I suppose it helps if you have an appitude for languages too...

Thank you for any helpful replies,

Peter
 
#2
get a current issue of PARBATE......and practise your romanised gurkha....
 
#3
My brother spent two years with a gurkha batallion in the eighties, he ended up as Int Off, Ops Off and just about every other off! The officers were bloody dire from the CO down, they may have been OK when they left RMAS but years in Hong Kong with the odd exercise in Brunei had depleted their infantry skills, (and all other military skills) to invisible level. When it came to socialising, eating and drinking however they were unsurpassed. If you consider parties, eating and drinking as supreme military skills then RGR is for you. With the demise of Hong Kong things may have changed of course, though probably only the location of the socialising.
 
#4
baldcossack said:
My brother spent two years with a gurkha batallion in the eighties, he ended up as Int Off, Ops Off and just about every other off! The officers were bloody dire from the CO down, they may have been OK when they left RMAS but years in Hong Kong with the odd exercise in Brunei had depleted their infantry skills, (and all other military skills) to invisible level. When it came to socialising, eating and drinking however they were unsurpassed. If you consider parties, eating and drinking as supreme military skills then RGR is for you. With the demise of Hong Kong things may have changed of course, though probably only the location of the socialising.
Here I have to agree with you.....as it was in the 1970's - 1980's.....but I am sure times have now changed!!!!!
 
#6
I've just done a spell as PRT for 1 RGR and the Subbies there all look identical.

Bizarre and very confusing, when you carry on at breakfast a conversation you held with one of them last night, and he gives you and utterly blank look.

Like the Village of the Damned...
 
#7
Bravo_Bravo said:
I've just done a spell as PRT for 1 RGR and the Subbies there all look identical.

Bizarre and very confusing, when you carry on at breakfast a conversation you held with one of them last night, and he gives you and utterly blank look.

Like the Village of the Damned...
:D :D :D :D

I think that happens to all who join some regiment that is not from one's own community!

It happened to me too!

The first few days I could never make out who is my batman, forget about other chaps!
 
#8
Nope, the subbies where honkies like me; but they looked like triplets.
 
#9
so back to the topic , how do you go about gaining a commission in the RGR ? have been training with them recently there a switched on bunch , crazy as.
 
#10
Your chances wioll be vastly improved if you take the time actually to read replies given.
 
#11
PeterM88 said:
How hard it is to be commissioned into the RGR?
Sorry to dispell the mystique... but there's no secret to the process - its similar in most ways to joining any popular / smart infantry regiment. I know a handful of Gurkha Officers quite well, and would answer your questions as follows:

PeterM88 said:
How many officers per term get commissioned?
As with every regiment - depends. On how many have joined recently, how many have left etc. Bear in mind though that many officers in the 2 Battalions are LE ( Late Entry ) Nepali officers - see other posts on this forum for details, and an awareness of the politics surrounding the British / Nepali officer mix.

PeterM88 said:
I am assuming they would need to have a very good report from Sandhurst, and be at the top of the in take...is this correct?
Nah, not really. None of my friends were.

PeterM88 said:
I suppose it helps if you have an appitude for languages too...
Nah, not really. None of my friends did.

What matters - as with every regiment - is that

a) You learn as much as possible about them and understand their ethos - there are a wealth of books about them. Bear in mind, though, that many books are shoddy SF-type juvenalia, and most memoirs hark back to colonial days. Like the remainder of the British Army the RGR have changed markedly in the last 6 years, let alone the last sixty.

I would, however, strongly urge you to buy "Bugles and a Tiger" & "The Road Past Mandalay" by John Masters. They are certainly not a useful practical guide to the RGR now, but they are marvellous books and capture the regiment's spirit. If you can appreciate a regiment's collective memory - including cold war pub fights, NI tours and Imperial Nostalgia - you can appreciate it's soul.

b) You express interest as early as possible

c) You visit them to gauge whether the atmosphere of the Regiment, Officers' mess and their respective roles suit you - and they look you up and down too

As for RGR-specific traits I'd say their officers are

a) Generally although not exclusively from private schools, although not necessarily rich backgrounds
b) "Characters" - never met a boring one. Although, in my experience, very few Infantry Officers are either!

As to whether they're brilliant / lazy troops - well, that's for another thread. A long and quite bitter argument raged on this forum - search for it.

For my two-penneth - my RGR friends and I have discussed it at length, and they served with British regiments also, including mine.

They're great light infantry. After all - like the Paras - its all they've ever done, so they bloody well should be! British Infantry Battalions can be as good, and sometimes better, but suffer from more pronounced variation due to re-roling, individual circumstances etc.

A fine regiment with great traditions (as have we all), a very respectable record in recent ops (as have we all) and a unique character. This last quality makes them a high ideal to aspire to join.

Life as an RGR subaltern can be very lonely, and especially difficult, compared to the Blankshires. But I think few of us don't have a sneaking regret that we haven't served alongside Johnny G.

Best of luck!
 
#12
Charlie_Cong, what a bloody good post.

Im hoping to join RGR, their unique character and Regimental traditions, along with a certain amount of romanticism in leading these types of soldiers (conjuring memories of the Kipling's great game) proves a big lure.

However, could anyone tell me if it is true that they prefer officers who are more 'long term'. This isn't a problem for me at all, but i dont want to burn my bridges just yet.

Thanks,
 
#13
Smudger,

I have sent Major Gay an email last week, however i have had no reply since. I dont suppose you might be further on in this than i?

Mike,
 
#14
Hi, Just joined ARRSE and this happend to be the first post i read. Also in the same process with Maj. Gay. It does take a few weeks to get things sorted.

I have just recieved a letter giving me three possible interview dates and the earliest one available is in september.

I think this is because he only interviews on a wednesday at the Museum in Winchester. Will let you know how it pans out!

Cheers
 
#15
Have you guys passed AOSB or are you still in the process? I've had an ACA meeting, and I'm filling out my CV for the AOSB briefing at the moment. I was just wondering whether you had to have done at least the briefing before doing the PO visit.
 
#16
Hello,
This is probably a stupid question to ask but i feel like i should ask it anyway, does becoming an Officer in the Queens Gurkha Engineers require the same qualities as have been stated above apart with the obvious service in the Royal Engineers

This is just a general intrest question since i am only 15 so suprisingly have not yet applied to become an officer but my ideal posting would be with the QGE (the perfect balance between gurkhas and combat engineering) and i would like a bit of advice so i can have time to become a step above the mark. Im not going to jump the gun though as geting my qualifications and a place at sandhurst is Step 1! :D
 
#17
its the same with the Queens Gurkha Engineers(QGE), Queens Gurkha Signals(QGS) or the Royal Gurkha Rifles(RGR), they all do the same basic infantry training for 9 months..and only after that they go to their relevant regiments. The criteria for the officers will be the same.. You got to have the appreciation for them and be prepared to learn their language..as you will get the oppurtinuty to go to Nepal and do a Nepalese language course( also the package includes a hike around the himalays and explore the beautiful country)
 
#18
Its been a good couple of months now and i have had no reply from Major G about anything what so ever. I dont suppose anyone else has taken this long to get any reply?
 
#19
Can somebody please give me the contact details of the Gurkha recruiting officer? Due to unusual circumstances I don't have an ACA(O) so I need to contact the regiment directly,
 
#20
It doesn't, hence my question in here. Not all regiments give contact details, with many telling to go via your careers officer.
 

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