Commercial control of Arrse advertising

do you think that other kit suppliers should be free advertise if they wish to do so

  • Yes - we want a choice

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  • No - dont care

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#1
I have been advertising on Arrse for a while, both directly and via google.

Is it fair that Arrse now only allows RVOPS to advertise or do you guys think that this is ok.

Not worded too well, i.e. do you think that other kit suppliers should be free advertise if they wish to do so?

On a personnal level, im bitter and twisted about this as i think that Arrse should be impartial and open to all. Not one brand thrown down your necks.
 
#2
If you put your money where your mouth is I'm sure the COs would gladly allow you to advertise on arrse. You just have to pay them.
 
#3
lofty_lofty said:
If you put your money where your mouth is I'm sure the COs would gladly allow you to advertise on arrse. You just have to pay them.
Trust me, its not like i have not offered!

I was told this week that i cant advertise anymore due to an Arrse agreement with RVOPS. i.e RVOPS now have full rights to be the only kit suppler on ARRSE.
 

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#4
bomb-int said:
lofty_lofty said:
If you put your money where your mouth is I'm sure the COs would gladly allow you to advertise on arrse. You just have to pay them.
Trust me, its not like i have not offered!

I was told this week that i cant advertise anymore due to an Arrse agreement with RVOPS. i.e RVOPS now have full rights to be the only kit suppler on ARRSE.
This wee trainset here belongs to Good CO and Bad CO. If they want an exclusive agreement with RVOPS (who undoubtably pay a not insubstantial amout of money for the pleasure) then they can have one. Nothing wrong with that is there?
 
#6
Possible not a good idea to start a campaign against the CO's
 

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#7
bomb-int said:
Nothing commercially wrong with it no, but is it what you guys/girls want?

Do you want one brand shoved down your necks or would you like a choice?
Personally, I want the website. The advertising is just... there. I take little notice of it. If I want to buy something, then like most semi-intelligent people, I will search for the best product at the best price. If that's RVOPS then brill, if not, who cares?
 
#8
Fat_Cav said:
Possible not a good idea to start a campaign against the CO's
Im not starting a campain against anymore, i just want to know if you guys/girls think that this type of change is ok?

After all, its your forum, no matter who owns it, you are the users :D
 
#9
I was just about to bang an order in with you for 60 sets of body armour, 4 mosquito nets and one of them things that Sigourney Weaver sits in to shift pallets about and fight aliens with...but I like my macho gear supplied by mustachioed, green vested wearing types, not someone who will cry tears of puerility onto all my gear when they are boxing it up....
 
#10
bomb-int said:
Nothing commercially wrong with it no, but is it what you guys/girls want?

Do you want one brand shoved down your necks or would you like a choice?
I had a look at your website and as much as I tussled with my conscience, and like about 50-odd% of the ex/non services ARRSE membership, I probably couldn't justify Body Armour for my daily commute to the office.

bomb-int said:
Im not starting a campain against anymore, i just want to know if you guys/girls think that this type of change is ok?

After all, its your forum, no matter who owns it, you are the users :D
Like Legs says, It's just there. Personally I find it any advertising annoying, but it's there for the business to succeed and I accept that.
Lastly, Isn't it an ironic statement, asking us what we want to know about? If we wanted something, the notion that we all frequent the web, you would assume that we would also use it for seeking products that we wanted? I did a google search for 'Covert Body Armour' which is on your site on UK Google and your item I was looking for appeared No 5 on the list after the sponsored links. That's pretty good as a hit, so you should assume, again, that anyone looking for your products would find them as easy as I did. (Personally if it's not on the first page I reword my search, but I'm lazy)

Incidentally, how much of your business (%) has been generated from advertising on here?
 
#11
Don't know what you're moaning about!

Evey time you post, you leave a linky to your business.
That's free advertising! :D

If you want to advertise in competition with RVOPS then bung the CO's a thicker brown envelope than you've already offered. Schimples!!! :D

Personally, I don't care about the advertising policy. I like the site, not the kit that is being sold.
If I want any of the kit either you or RVOPS is selling, I know where to get it.
 
#12
bomb-int said:
lofty_lofty said:
If you put your money where your mouth is I'm sure the COs would gladly allow you to advertise on arrse. You just have to pay them.
Trust me, its not like i have not offered!

I was told this week that i cant advertise anymore due to an Arrse agreement with RVOPS. i.e RVOPS now have full rights to be the only kit suppler on ARRSE.
My kits available through my advertisements on ARRSE :?

PoGs

www.pocketcomms.co.uk
 
#13
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
I was just about to bang an order in with you for 60 sets of body armour, 4 mosquito nets and one of them things that Sigourney Weaver sits in to shift pallets about and fight aliens with...but I like my macho gear supplied by mustachioed, green vested wearing types, not someone who will cry tears of puerility onto all my gear when they are boxing it up....
CLASS!!!
 
#14
Fat_Cav, fair point mate, mabe i should just shut the fcuk up and stop moaning :cry:

I dont know what % of business i get via ARSE, but in the past its been a good place to showcase my business and to learn what kit you guys/girls are really interested in. (whats hot and whats not etc.)
 
#15
StickyToffeePudding said:
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
I was just about to bang an order in with you for 60 sets of body armour, 4 mosquito nets and one of them things that Sigourney Weaver sits in to shift pallets about and fight aliens with...but I like my macho gear supplied by mustachioed, green vested wearing types, not someone who will cry tears of puerility onto all my gear when they are boxing it up....
dont do mosquito nets, sorry :?
 
#16
bomb-int said:
StickyToffeePudding said:
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
I was just about to bang an order in with you for 60 sets of body armour, 4 mosquito nets and one of them things that Sigourney Weaver sits in to shift pallets about and fight aliens with...but I like my macho gear supplied by mustachioed, green vested wearing types, not someone who will cry tears of puerility onto all my gear when they are boxing it up....
dont do mosquito nets, sorry :?
Doesnt matter, I can get them off RVOP's... :D :D

I'm going to pay in solid gold dublouns with your face etched on...crying....
 
#17
Commercially, the CO's own the site. They can negotiate with whoever they like and select whoever they wish. It's their business.

If they wished to enter into an exclusivity deal with an advertiser where any mention of other suppliers was immediately deleted, they could, although I'd think they were c*nts if they did. I am not a sheep and won't buy what ARRSE tells me to.

There's a sticky at the top of QM's for recommendations or otherwise. You have some fans in that thread who have posted more than once in that thread about your great service and prices. If Dom at Kitmonster couldn't get it me I would look at what you have based on those recommendations. RVOPs isn't on the reserve list.
 
#18
Point taken.

My adverts (via google adwords) were taken off with no prior warning.

Anyway. I understand (might be wrong here) that Olive Net Ltd own RVOPS or are in the same group. Like i said, i might be wrong about that, but it does make sense anyway.

Maybe i am just throwing my teddy again :-(
 
#19
No we don't own RVOps. Yes we put a vast amount of effort in to it (doing the tech bit - the online shop) and take a small % of sales.

I would feel uncomfortable about not advertising for the competition if I weren't genuinely convinced that RVOps is the best out there. They are extremely professional with many years experience, offer outstanding customer service, genuinely care about the troops that end up using their equipment, and will not stock poor products. We have been working in partnership with them for some years now and I simply cannot fault them as an organisation.

Anyway I look forward to seeing you placing ads for your own competition on your website. Whinging twat.
 
#20
Slightly turning this thread on its head have there been demands from the ARRSE users to increase the amount of advertising on the Website … I very much doubt it . Personally I am happy to be able to visit a Website and not be bombarded with advertising and Popups . If it “ ain’t broke why fix it “ . The response so far to this thread I think confirms my opinion .

Edited to include ... " This comment was created at the same time as Good CO was posting his entries above ... they were not seen prior to submission ."
 

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