Commando tanky?

#1
About 10 years ago,bloke I worked with,an ex panzer chappie, claimed to have done the AACC.(as a serving tanky)
Any reason to believe this?
 
#2
Never personally heard of a tankie commando unit. It was my understanding that unless you have a justification to do the course ie in the RE they have 59 sqn, soon to be 24 cdo regt then you wont get on the course.
 

the_boy_syrup

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#3
I believe QDG provide the Armoured recce for the RM
HCR provide it for 16 AA and they do P coy so it might be QDG manage to get some on the AACC
IIRC correctly at Windsor in 2004 there was a HCR lad who was attached to the RM and had his green lid and dagger on so it must happen
 
#5
I believe The Royal Yeomanry also have the chance to do AACC due to role, not sure if anyones done it though
 
#6
A couple of lads at 1 RTR have done the course, whether or not they are transferees in i dont know, but was on OPTAG last year with them.
 
#8
LD currently support 3 Cdo Bde, not QDG who are now in Germany (although they did during OP TELIC (1)). Not sure if any LD soldiers routinely do the AACC.

When 3 Cdo Bde require armour (i.e. CR2) it is re-grouped on an ad hoc basis and so they is no commando trained/designated armoured regt/sqn

Individual RAC officers and soldiers may have done ithe AACC for certain E2 ERE postings (or just blagged their way onto the course and passed).
 
#9
Was given the "you can be a Para/Cdo in the RTR" spiel, on the grounds that elements of 1RTR would need to deploy with 16AA and 3 Cdo Bde, and so you could elect/be forced to do P-Coy and/or AACC at some point.
 
#12
Unsure tankieboy, but I'd imagine it works along the same lines as the Riflemen who have passed AACC.
i.e. "I've got my own green beret thanks very much, so I'll just wear the dagger if it's all the same to you."
Just replace green with black.
 
#13
littlenickoutthere said:
It was my understanding that unless you have a justification to do the course ie in the RE they have 59 sqn, soon to be 24 cdo regt then you wont get on the course.
The Queens regt 3rd btn,regulary sent a C/Sgt on a two year posting to Lympstone teaching Infantry tactics,this was in the late 80s early 90s they came back with there dagger up
 
#14
Discipline wrote.

The Queens regt 3rd btn,regulary sent a C/Sgt on a two year posting to Lympstone teaching Infantry tactics,this was in the late 80s early 90s they came back with there dagger up[/quote]

But he wasn't a Panzer pilot.I'm aware of the various cap badges that may attend the course(RE,RA,REME,SIGS and foreign nats on exchange etc)but just thought it odd for a tankie to need to go on it.
By the replies,maybe he wasn't the fat lying fatherless that I reckoned he was.
Cheers.
 
#15
I always thought the HCR supported 3 CDO and 16 Air Asslt.

The QDG supported them on Telic, and were given the Bde flash,and nick named the "Commando Tanks", particulary good work around Um Qasr I belive.

I know a fair few who have got on the course and then not served with 3 Cdo, and we only have a few spots there. If the course is half empty, I am sure they will fill it up with all comers.
 
#16
chocolate_frog said:
I always thought the HCR supported 3 CDO and 16 Air Asslt.

The QDG supported them on Telic, and were given the Bde flash,and nick named the "Commando Tanks", particulary good work around Um Qasr I belive.

I know a fair few who have got on the course and then not served with 3 Cdo, and we only have a few spots there. If the course is half empty, I am sure they will fill it up with all comers.
I think you're about right on the "if the course is half empty they'll fill it up with all comers." I'm not sure it happens that often, but I certainly know a couple of guys who have done the course but not necessarily been to 3 Cdo Bde afterwards.

Which RAC regiment routinely supports 3 Cdo Bde has changed a couple of times in the last few years. At one stage the HCR were busy trying to ensure that it was going to be one of their sqns (in addition to D Sqn supporting 16 AA Bde). Currently the task rests with LD, where it will probably remain, particularly if there is an aspiration to get a sqn commando trained (not sure if there is or not).
 

mysteron

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#18
A number of lads from Jt CBRN Regt (1 RTR) who support 3 Cdo and 16AA have attempted and passed the relevant specialist course for that Bde. This is part of the small specialist teams that support all of the deployable component. As they are part of the such a specialist Bde, they have done the relevant course that was (but maybe not now) traditionally a pre-cursor to entry.
 
#19
I think the only "real" Commando role for heavy armour is sort of route-clearance, ie finding out if there's space to get your Chally 2 up the beach and tore into the foreigners.

Apparently CVRT can be slung under a Chinook or chucked off a Hercules quite nicely, though. The way it was (quite emphatically) told to me it somehow gets chucked with the crew inside (some kind of collapsing crate underneath and from about four feet up), which seems somewhat unlikely!
 
#20
seemahpoint said:
Apparently CVRT can be slung under a Chinook or chucked off a Hercules quite nicely, though. The way it was (quite emphatically) told to me it somehow gets chucked with the crew inside (some kind of collapsing crate underneath and from about four feet up), which seems somewhat unlikely!
 
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