Commanding Officer - 3 Para quitting the Army in disgust.

#1
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1293227,00.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article475497.ece

A WAR hero Para chief is quitting the Army in disgust over the “appalling” and “shoddy” treatment of troops, it was revealed yesterday.

The OBE officer, hotly-tipped to one day head the Army, highlighted:
Soldiers’ POOR PAY,
A lack of training EQUIPMENT;
Appalling Army HOUSING;
Shoddy TREATMENT by the health service.


..........Although nothing to do with he didnt get his PPP;

"The final straw was when he was denied his dream job as Chief of Staff to 3 Division in Bulford for a posting in York instead, away from his Wiltshire home and girlfriend.”
 

oldbaldy

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#3
And:
An Afghanistan war hero who led some of the toughest fighting against the Taliban is to leave the Army in disgust at the Government's treatment of troops.

Lt Col Stuart Tootal, 42, who some believe had the ability to lead the Army in the future, wrote a damning letter to military personnel chiefs slamming the "shoddy" treatment of soldiers before announcing his resignation.

It is a fresh blow for Gordon Brown and his Defence Secretary, Des Browne, who have been trying to show renewed commitment to the armed forces.

As commanding officer of 3 Para, Lt Col Tootal led his men in some of last year's most intense fighting in southern Afghanistan's Helmand province, for which he was awarded the DSO. During his six-month tour between April and October, Lt Col Tootal had to contend with lack of food, water, ammunition and insufficient helicopter support.

Since returning, he became increasingly frustrated with troops' poor pay, the lack of equipment for recruits to train with, the state of Army housing and the lack of dedicated facilities for injured soldiers.

He left despite having been selected, on promotion to full colonel, to become Chief of Staff of the newly-created 6 Division, based in York.

Until very recently Lt Col Tootal was insisting he intended to take up the post.

A well-placed military source yesterday confirmed that Lt Col Tootal had made his concerns known over pay, training equipment, welfare and housing.

However, it is also thought that Lt Col Tootal was keen to stay in Wiltshire, close to his girlfriend, and had set his heart on becoming Chief of Staff of 3 Division, based in Bulford.

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "The Ministry of Defence is aware that Lt Col Tootal intends to leave the Army and we would like to thank him for his loyal service over 20 years, particularly his exceptional leadership of 3 PARA in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, for which he was awarded the Distinguished Service Order."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/17/ntroops117.xml
 
#5
Well it seems to have pushed a few Journo's buttons - also from the Sun

THE fighting spirit of our boys and girls in the hellholes of Afghanistan and Iraq has won them the admiration of our allies and bravery medals galore.

So it is shameful that their reward from the Government is poverty pay, equipment shortages and housing so poor it would be rejected out of hand by an illegal immigrant.

This outrageous treatment has been highlighted by The Sun's Help for Heroes campaign, which demands a better deal for our servicemen.

And now the resignation of the man tipped to become a general and head of the army makes the case for “Action This Day” unanswerable.

Lt Col Stuart Tootal, the commanding officer of 3 Para who was awarded the DSO for his heroism in the Afghan province of Helmand, is quitting because of the shoddy way our troops are being treated by Whitehall.

His resignation letter is a devastating indictment of the way the military has been let down by the armchair generals back home and the politicians whose promises of a better deal have proved hollow.

The PATHETIC pay for our frontline troops — £10,000 less than a policeman or firefighter — as a clear reason why so many are quitting to earn three times as much working for private security firms.

The LACK of equipment that means troops cannot be trained properly, putting lives in even greater danger.

And the APPALLING accommodation for married servicemen back home that puts strains on relationships already under pressure because of the intense pressure of combat.


The Sun pledges to do all we can to put relentless pressure on the politicians and army brass through our Help for Heroes campaign.

We will not rest until our brave boys and girls leading the fight against world terrorism are given the treatment they deserve — and have earned a thousand times over.
 
#6
You just can not win sometimes. Your dammed if you do and dammed if your don't.
So what if he did not get the posting he was after, there are plenty of people here who have signed off for much less. The fact is, he has made a bold statement as a commanding officer, who had a career, towards the MOD, something many here have been calling out for. Now someone has done it, he gets nick picked for it.

There are a few examples on here when people go on about the CDS. 'He should have sacked it when in the job, that would have shown them' ect ect

I won’t hold my breath that his actions will have any major impact on how our forces are treated. I personally feel its best to stay behind the wire and work from within. As some have and still do to this day. :wink:
 
#7
Not so sure Kenny. Sense of timing perfect. Govt is on the ropes over it's handling of UK Armed Forces. I just hope next time Broon visits the boys he gets the cold shoulder. Have a plan to look left for the big photo opp.
 
#8
Whatever the spin the Press put on it - the man has made a stand which we should commend.

The more impact this has, the greater the attempt to discredit him will be. You can be sure that someone is lining up to criticise, undermine and dig up dirt on Colonel Tootal. You can see allready that it is being suggested that he just didn't want to go to York - Afghanistan, Colchester and Aldershot were OK presumably. I hope he has his tin-hat ready.
 
#9
Im Not so sure nigegilb, best time would have been just before a General Election, but then again he would have most probably got the job he was after if he had resigned with his comments around then.

Only way things will change is the day when we kick out this present government during the next General Election, as its only then that they start to sit up and take notice. The MOD would have been fully aware of his comments yet they still allowed him to go, so they were not that fussed about his actions or of there implications.

And of the day, Good luck to him for sticking his head above the parapet.
 
B

Brandt

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#10
COS of 6 Div is not a snub. For those who don't know, 6XX will be a permanently deployable 2 star HQ, similar to the Royal Marines' COMAMPHIBFOR.

Evey, I don't see the issue with his integrity. If he is going because he feels the soldiers are being badly treated, then surely it is right that he says so?
 
#11
Brown has his own agenda, he does not care about the treatment of the forces. He will put his false smile on when visiting the guys,but as soon as he can no longer smell the unwashed mass's it no longer crosses his mind.

This is a government that lies to the population and when it gets caught lying, no longer even feels it has to explain itself it is so arrogant and regards the people of this country as an irritation.

I doubt that the news of Lt Col Tootal's comment raise a flicker, THEY DO NOT CARE!
 
#12
daz, this story is being given some weight in "The Sun." The Sun (Murdoch)prides itself on picking the next Prime Minister. Labour will be getting very nervous if it thinks a switch in allegiance is in the air. Could even bounce the Govt into giving more support to UKAF. I agree with your main sentiment, but there is a lot at stake for the liars running the country. Their continued position with their noses in the trough for example.
 
#13
What difference does it make if he has personal as well as professional reasons for leaving? At least he is using the opportunity that his decision presents to highlight issues that are obviously dear to his (and our) heart. More power to his elbow and I hope that others follow suit.
 
#14
<<<An insider said: “The final straw was when he was denied his dream job as Chief of Staff to 3 Division in Bulford for a posting in York instead, away from his Wiltshire home and girlfriend.” >>>

It makes you wonder who the insider was, it obviously wasn't a friend and is probably only his impression. Then again it could have been then straw that broke the camel's back. Good luck to someone who at least has the courage of his convictions.
 
#16
When these guys send off their *I quit* letters - leaked to The Mail and The Daily Telegraph - I always wonder how much they stood up to be counted on the issues that concern them while they were serving. All the problems the CO identifies were of great concern before the guy was even commissioned. Nothing has changed. Except he is now apparently out of the firing line and can afford to snipe.

But if he is going to miss his girlfriend then he knows how everybody else in the Army must feel. Service life is not conducive to maintaining any stable relationship - except with great difficulty.
 
#18
nigegilb said:
daz, this story is being given some weight in "The Sun." The Sun (Murdoch)prides itself on picking the next Prime Minister. Labour will be getting very nervous if it thinks a switch in allegiance is in the air. Could even bounce the Govt into giving more support to UKAF. I agree with your main sentiment, but there is a lot at stake for the liars running the country. Their continued position with their noses in the trough for example.
Agreed. The sleazy Liarbour parasites will do anything to remain in power and keep their snouts in the trough of taxpayers money.

If Bottler Broon is forced to improve pay and conditions to ensure that Murdoch's papers continue to support him then he'll do just enough to keep them happy with a big false smile on his face.
 
#19
The CO brifed the battalion on this issue yesterday. True he did not get the only job he was prepared to do to carry on his career. He relished command in the front line and leading a Para battalion and feels a desk job combined with leaving the Parachute Regiment (as full Colonels do) is not for him.
He didn't mention any personnal reasons for leaving but the state of the armed forces and the way we are treated may well have contributed to his decision. Good luck to him. He's without a shadow of a doubt the best CO we've had in the last 20 years.
 
#20
Fallschirmjager, having had the oppurtunity to be part of last years BG, he and the Battalion were truly inspirational. Good job to all. These leaders like CGS and Tootal are few and far between (not seen since the days of Monty). It's a shame that another Para (Jackson) only found his voice once he left with no ramifications. Good drills Tootal.
 

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