Coldstream guards or REME

#1
so I am a bit split between either joining the Coldstream Guards or the REME as a VC or something.

Two good friends of me are guardsmen (one a l/cpl i think) and to be honest it is what i feel i really want to do

BUT my close second choice is as a REME aircraft tech and my dad thinks i should get a trade

So the point is my head thinks REME and me heart says guards

i came to this forum because i want to ask what do people tend to do after leaving the infantry? i intend to do a full 22 years but you never know
 
#4
Jord2008 said:
Private security work, 100 grand a year. Not me (I wish) but people I know.
Doing what exactly for that money and how long do you consider it sustainable? That amount of money sounds like a con from international aid.
 
#5
Perturbed said:
Jord2008 said:
Private security work, 100 grand a year. Not me (I wish) but people I know.
Doing what exactly for that money and how long do you consider it sustainable? That amount of money sounds like a con from international aid.
Riding round in an SUV with rich Arabs...


Sustainable? Until the yanks leave Iraq I imagine...
 
#6
Jord2008 said:
Private security work, 100 grand a year. Not me (I wish) but people I know.
What a random post. What does that have to do with joining the REME or the guards?
 
#7
smudge67 said:
Jord2008 said:
Private security work, 100 grand a year. Not me (I wish) but people I know.
What a random post. What does that have to do with joining the REME or the guards?
Yeah totally random, apart from that part where I addressed his post and answered his question...

"i came to this forum because i want to ask what do people tend to do after leaving the infantry? i intend to do a full 22 years but you never know"
 
#8
Jord2008 said:
smudge67 said:
Jord2008 said:
Private security work, 100 grand a year. Not me (I wish) but people I know.
What a random post. What does that have to do with joining the REME or the guards?
Yeah totally random, apart from that part where I addressed his post and answered his question...

"i came to this forum because i want to ask what do people tend to do after leaving the infantry? i intend to do a full 22 years but you never know"
I bet if you asked 1000 ex guards (after 22 years service) that you may find 1 or 2 that do "private security" work.
 
#9
Jord2008 said:
smudge67 said:
Jord2008 said:
Private security work, 100 grand a year. Not me (I wish) but people I know.
What a random post. What does that have to do with joining the REME or the guards?
Yeah totally random, apart from that part where I addressed his post and answered his question...

"i came to this forum because i want to ask what do people tend to do after leaving the infantry? i intend to do a full 22 years but you never know"
I can see tons of opportunities in the CP line of work as an ex Gdsman. :roll:

Do you visit this planet often?
 
#10
smudge67 said:
Jord2008 said:
smudge67 said:
Jord2008 said:
Private security work, 100 grand a year. Not me (I wish) but people I know.
What a random post. What does that have to do with joining the REME or the guards?
Yeah totally random, apart from that part where I addressed his post and answered his question...

"i came to this forum because i want to ask what do people tend to do after leaving the infantry? i intend to do a full 22 years but you never know"
I bet if you asked 1000 ex guards (after 22 years service) that you may find 1 or 2 that do "private security" work.
His post suggested that if it wasn't for him then what would be open to him if he left before 22. I'm sure if you asked 1000 ex guards that didn't do 22 you'll find more than 1 or 2.
 
#11
Jord2008 said:
His post suggested that if it wasn't for him then what would be open to him if he left before 22. I'm sure if you asked 1000 ex guards that didn't do 22 you'll find more than 1 or 2.
Possibly but certainly not drawing in six figure sums afforded to properly qualified former soldiers in that line of work. CP and security work is ten a penny and full of shady organisations who employ chaps with dubious quals and backgrounds. The higher echelon tend to only employ slightly more special individuals based on word of mouth and the usual networks. Unless of course you feel a member of the Foot Guards can offer something above and beyond? :roll:
 
#12
kingcal91 said:
so I am a bit split between either joining the Coldstream Guards or the REME as a VC or something.

Two good friends of me are guardsmen (one a l/cpl i think) and to be honest it is what i feel i really want to do

BUT my close second choice is as a REME aircraft tech and my dad thinks i should get a trade

So the point is my head thinks REME and me heart says guards

i came to this forum because i want to ask what do people tend to do after leaving the infantry? i intend to do a full 22 years but you never know
Sorry, it looks as though I derailed your thread. If you decide on REME would you consider avionics technician? I am not certain (so check if applicable) but avionics tech probably offers more outside job opportunities than aircraft tech.

As for infantry, outside employment will probably vary massively depending upon your career/education path/choices while in.

You could always join the guards and give it a couple of years. At that point it will probably still be possible to transfer to REME if you qualify. You will (almost certainly) not be able to transfer to the guards if you are a qualified air tech.
 
#13
Perturbed said:
kingcal91 said:
so I am a bit split between either joining the Coldstream Guards or the REME as a VC or something.

Two good friends of me are guardsmen (one a l/cpl i think) and to be honest it is what i feel i really want to do

BUT my close second choice is as a REME aircraft tech and my dad thinks i should get a trade

So the point is my head thinks REME and me heart says guards

i came to this forum because i want to ask what do people tend to do after leaving the infantry? i intend to do a full 22 years but you never know
Sorry, it looks as though I derailed your thread. If you decide on REME would you consider avionics technician? I am not certain (so check if applicable) but avionics tech probably offers more outside job opportunities than aircraft tech.

As for infantry, outside employment will probably vary massively depending upon your career/education path/choices while in.

You could always join the guards and give it a couple of years. At that point it will probably still be possible to transfer to REME if you qualify. You will (almost certainly) not be able to transfer to the guards if you are a qualified air tech.
what do you mean by qualify to trnasfer to the REME? like enough GCSEs?
 
#14
Do what you want to do, you'll be more motivated than doing something you're expected to do. I wouldn't bother doing the trade thing unless you've a real interest in it. These two paths you've highlighted are poles apart - REME tending towards working indoors and rarely leaving the base, and Inf getting out-and-about and going places. What are your edu quals (in general)?
 
#15
strudelpus said:
Do what you want to do, you'll be more motivated than doing something you're expected to do. I wouldn't bother doing the trade thing unless you've a real interest in it. These two paths you've highlighted are poles apart - REME tending towards working indoors and rarely leaving the base, and Inf getting out-and-about and going places. What are your edu quals (in general)?
12 GCSEs A* - C erm still at school with AS level but i hate it and want out as soon as possible

i enquired about going to Harrogate or Winchester in about June this year but i was over the age limit for the january intake next year by 2 months (sucks) so decided to go onto sixth form at school then apply for a regular entry, but like i say i am having a terrible time at school at the minute and want out so i am starting an application for the army after the new year
 
#16
Ok, and you realise that any REME AirTech trade will involve quite some time studying like mad for a trade which, possibly, you won't want to/be unable to follow in the outside world (mind you i was only a vm so what do i know... but see similar threads on the REME forum). You thought about Inf Orificer (but unlikely with Guards unless you've a semi-privileged background?). Until you absolutely decide, keep on learning - gives you more options when you sign on the dotted line.
 
#18
My personal choice would be REME. Being someone who's time is coming up very shorlty, I DEEPLY regret not getting a decent trade behind me. Especially with the world the way it is now.

I have served with the REME and they are generally a great group of people where you get treated like an adult(most of the time)

I have little knowledge of Guards having never worked with them, but from the multitude of stories I hear from friends that have, I wouldn't last 5 minutes in a Guards Regt - Bullshit aint my thang.

But as everyone else says, the choice is yours. Little point in doing something you're not interested in. I would say that if you do go down the Guards route, make damn sure you use the variety of funds available at your disposal to get some decent qualifications. That way you should have you bases covered.
 
#19
REME = tinkering about with lots of spanners, black hands, dirty coveralls and supporting the combat troops.
You will, however obtain technical qualifications relating to your trade. You will mostly be attached to Regiments as opposed to being part of a Regiment. Once you have finished in the Army you will be largely forgotten about.

Coldstream Guards = Teamwork and an active lifestyle incorporating Active Service on the streets and fields of Afghanistan, Iraq and others places. Peacekeeping and humanitarian duties worldwide. 1st Battalion Coldstream Guards are currently roled as heli-borne assault troops. The opportunity to take part in Ceremonial Duties such as Trooping the Colour and the State Opening of Parliament.

A unique system of promotion whereby you can be a Lance Sergeant as opposed to a Corporal in the rest of the Army, thereby offering you access to middle management at an early age.

The opportunity to specialise in a variety of skills such as driver, clerk, drummer, sniper, communications systems operator, recconnaissance specialist, paratrooper, Physical Training Instructor to name but a few.
You will remain part of the Regiment for ever and there are lots of very well connected ex Officers and Guardsmen in civvy street.

REME may be better if you want to do a few years sitting in a workshop or garage and get out to become a tradesman.
 
#20
Those are two very different choices. Guardsman has been covered so I'll deal with Air Tech. This may be out of date as I have been out for decades (well nearly!).

Air or Avionics Techs is a decent qualification with longer term potential outside the army (but I guess you need to get some further civvy licences).

As the name suggests, this is a really techy area and if you are going to work in it, you'll have to have some sort of appitude for it. The courses are hard and if having your head under an aircraft cowling isnt for you than you might want to reconsider. There are some benefits. Pay is very good, relative to the rest of the army, and promotion is fast. However, there are less traditional 'leadership roles' for NCO's, and it would be a case of being a L/Cpl or Cpl within a sub unit (the LAD - Ligh Aid Detachment) made up mainly of Junior and Senior NCO's.

Your career would alternative between AAC regiments or squadrons and REME aircraft workshops. Your day will be spent working on aircraft as part of a team. Accepting that we are all soldiers first, Air Techs spend very little time with 'weapons in the shoulder' as it were. Having said that, working with helcopters is pretty neat.

As much as we AAC types may whinge about BAT's (Bastard Air Techs), most of them are good blokes and overall a decent bunch to work with. Like the rest of the army, the AAC is working hard right now. Within the AAC, I guess that the AH1 fleet is working hardest, both in sandy places and in the UK, and this includes Air Techs. The AAC is represented in the US and Germany and still has flights in belize, brunei and in Canada. Air techs also used to be able to serve with 3 Commado Brigade Air Squadron, after passed the appropriatte arduous course. This opportunity may still exist, serving with 89567890 Naval Air Squadron (or whatever 3 BAS is now called).

People do transfer into the Air tech world. However, one downside is that you may be older than you peers. Not sure if this is really an issue though.

Might be worth posting something in the aviation forum as there are Air techs and Avionic s Techs on here, and they would be able to give a more up to date picture.

Hope this helps. Best of luck.

.Sole
 

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