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Message: [QUOTE="bob_the_bomb, post: 10541846, member: 19664"] In 85 there was no specific time limit you had to leave East Berlin. We used to visit an Ossie night club, where, because of the Mess Kit and our ability to pay for lots of Eastie ‘champagne’ we were guaranteed to make a bit of a stir. In short, most of the young Ossies we met saw West Berlin a bit like we might think of Bangkok. An exotic place to visit but not really somewhere they’d want to live. Remember they could all pick up Western TV. Many had Wessie relatives that would visit. They all saw the drugs, graffiti, litter and unemployment in the West. They had a (crap) apartment*, a (crap) job and a (crap) car*. These things were all crap but they had them. The thing that annoyed them the most was that they couldn’t visit on holiday. Of course, 4 short years later it was the new ability of them to visit the west that got out of control and led to the wall coming down. This social opportunity came crashing down (in 86 I think) after it was found that one of the subbies from the D&Ds who used to come carousing with us had set up home with an Ossie girl he’d met in the nightclub and was actually spending quite a lot of time there. The rules about how many hours you could spend over there were tightened and you had to be back by 0030 IIRC. * after being on a waiting list, of course. [/QUOTE]