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Coalition policy document-MOD costs cut by 25%

#3
"We will aim to reduce Ministry of Defence running costs by at least 25%."

So it all rather depends on what you class as a "Running Cost". Played that game before and ended up with "Change Costs" and "Restructuring Costs" and the inevitable huge p1ssing matches over what went into the various buckets and when.
 
#4
Phrase to note is "aim" and "ministry of defence" - what do they mean by this - do they mean MOD as Main Building, or MOD as in whole of Defence - either way that could be painful!
 
#5
May not be so bad, they can cut lots of fat here and there without affecting frontline services (e.g. procurement, consultation fees e.t.c). It really depends on how clever the bloke doing it is, and if he has the support of the various chiefs.
 
#6
Turk said:
May not be so bad, they can cut lots of fat here and there without affecting frontline services (e.g. procurement, consultation fees e.t.c). It really depends on how clever the bloke doing it is, and if he has the support of the various chiefs.
Not that clever and no support from the various chiefs and heads, I would hazard a guess
 
#7
jim30 said:
Phrase to note is "aim" and "ministry of defence" - what do they mean by this - do they mean MOD as Main Building, or MOD as in whole of Defence - either way that could be painful!
I'm fairly sure that means MOD as in 'Main Building' (and, of course, all the ancillary parts) rather than 'defence spending'.
 
#10
is it more of a bye bye to a good portion of cash guzzling civil servents, Generals, Admirals and Air Marshall types?

I get an error message 503 so cant read the doc.
 
#11
brighton hippy said:
it it was that easy I think it might have been tried before. :cry:
What has "easy" got to do with it?
Harsh reality is that Brown spent the lot and then spent a lot more he didn't have.
The UK is skint, not just a little hard up but properly, seriously up the creek.
Spending has to be cut.

My own preference would be for health and welfare to bear the brunt of cuts but I'm not the man holding the purse strings.

Reality is that public spending needs cutting by at least 25% across the board. Its just the way it is and everyone will have to get used to it and try to do the best they can with the slice they get.
 
#12
RoyogtheRovers said:
is it more of a bye bye to a good portion of cash guzzling civil servents, Generals, Admirals and Air Marshall types?

I get an error message 503 so cant read the doc.
I believe that is the intention but it isn't specific.
 
#15
jagman said:
brighton hippy said:
I was suggesting the idea that 25% cut can be found through "efficency savings" :x
Actually I'm firmly convinced it can be, in all government departments.
For a start they can have cheaper chairs, a freeze on office "titilation" and sensible spending on cars and other capital costs, that should save a bit for starters.
 
#16
jew_unit said:
http://programmeforgovernment.hmg.gov.uk/defence/

It actually looks like this government may be quite good for defence. Those working with CR2 or AS90 should probably be getting ready for some serious cuts, but I think everyone else could do quite well out of this.
What happens to those serving on CR2 then? i'm off to basic in 5 months time aiming for CR2 crewman within 2rtr. Do you have the option to re-trade? go to inf or just get the boot?
 
#17
brighton hippy said:
I was suggesting the idea that 25% cut can be found through "efficency savings" :x
For efficiency savings read external consultants, privatisation and loss of control / poor commercials, shiny new IT systems that work as well as JPA, NOMS and the other wonders we have had. Let's watch the big 4 get richer telling the MOD things they already know, and then the MOD ignoring the implementation.
 
#18
Surfer_Smithy said:
jew_unit said:
http://programmeforgovernment.hmg.gov.uk/defence/

It actually looks like this government may be quite good for defence. Those working with CR2 or AS90 should probably be getting ready for some serious cuts, but I think everyone else could do quite well out of this.
What happens to those serving on CR2 then? i'm off to basic in 5 months time aiming for CR2 crewman within 2rtr. Do you have the option to re-trade? go to inf or just get the boot?
God knows. I've no idea how that kind of thing works. I certainly don't have any insider knowledge, it just seems to be the obvious area to cut if the government is desperate to make savings; I think General Dannatt said something similar fairly recently.
 
#19
jagman said:
brighton hippy said:
I was suggesting the idea that 25% cut can be found through "efficency savings" :x
Actually I'm firmly convinced it can be, in all government departments.
Of course it can. Dead easy to produce "Efficiency Savings". Which have tended to be bollox numbers based on spurious accounting assumptions.

Finding real cash savings is the hard bit
 
#20
Blogg said:
jagman said:
brighton hippy said:
I was suggesting the idea that 25% cut can be found through "efficency savings" :x
Actually I'm firmly convinced it can be, in all government departments.
Of course it can. Dead easy to produce "Efficiency Savings". Which have tended to be bollox numbers based on spurious accounting assumptions.

Finding real cash savings is the hard bit
Hear hear. Nail, head, hit.
 

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