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CMT

#1
hey im about to goto RSC. Have been looking on the net and even asked at AFCO but have but unable to find any good info on what phase 2 consists of
just wanted to know if anyone can remember and maybe give me the basic programme

Thanks
 
#2
Phase 2 is split into three unequal stages. The first, based at Keogh Barracks for the time being, is Tri-service and focuses on the fundamentals of clinical practice common to all three Services. You will spend a lot of time memorizing the names of various muscle groups, bones and other body parts.

If you pass this stage (and make no mistake, it isn't easy) you will go onto your clinical placements stage. This involves working in an NHS hospital under supervision, completing a number of clinical tasks as set out in your course book. It's a bit of a swan, depending on where you work, but try not to forget you're a soldier!

Finally, you come back for the Single Service (Army) phase, in which you learn more about the military skills associated with the CMT. Yes, this includes building tents but also includes patrol drills, casualty evacuation, weapon handling, drill and plenty of PT.

At the end, we spit you out into the "Real World" and you become a CMT Class 2 at (in most cases) a Medical Regiment.

Good luck.

IF
 
#4
Whats_this_all_aboot said:
How long does it take in total to become a CMT Class 2?
Its about 40 weeks. My Brother in Law is just about to start the second phase on clinical placement. He found the initial part of the course taxing but enjoyable.

Good luck,
wee man.
 
#6
IdeasFactory said:
Phase 2 is split into three unequal stages. The first, based at Keogh Barracks for the time being, is Tri-service and focuses on the fundamentals of clinical practice common to all three Services. You will spend a lot of time memorizing the names of various muscle groups, bones and other body parts.

If you pass this stage (and make no mistake, it isn't easy) you will go onto your clinical placements stage. This involves working in an NHS hospital under supervision, completing a number of clinical tasks as set out in your course book. It's a bit of a swan, depending on where you work, but try not to forget you're a soldier!

Finally, you come back for the Single Service (Army) phase, in which you learn more about the military skills associated with the CMT. Yes, this includes building tents but also includes patrol drills, casualty evacuation, weapon handling, drill and plenty of PT.

At the end, we spit you out into the "Real World" and you become a CMT Class 2 at (in most cases) a Medical Regiment.

Good luck.


Does anyone know if you can do your clinical placement up in the Catterick area?
 
#7
Does anyone know if the British Forces will take any previous EMS experience towards the CMT course.I live in Canada,but have plans of coming back to the UK once i get the appropriate sponsor in order and have close to 9 years of full time EMT/Primary Care Paramedic experience in Sask Canada.I am a UK citizen.

I would also like to know if anyone could shed some light on the specific skills a CMT has,Intubation,specific Pharmacology,ACLS etc;this information seems difficult to locate.

What can you branch off to as a CMT?
 
#8
As a CMT your current quals will count for little.

You will undergo the usual Basic Infantry Course
You'll then go to the Tri Service (Butlins) Training Establishment at Keogh Bks, Nr Aldershot.

Mate to be honest.........its not worth it. You'll gain no accreditation, will have to do the most basic of tests to gain even the most basic of currently (Civilian) unrecognised qualifications in the RAMC.

You will then have to serve a period of time before you even get near the 'Guccia' medically orientated jobs.

I have to be honest and say...........join the Canadian forces.......the RAMC will give you nothing as a medic.
 
#9
Hey thanks for the response.I actually have completed the Canadian Forces application process as a med tech applicant.I applied semi skilled,being that i'm a PCP and trained in SK,one of four courses in Canada recognized by the Canadian Forces(it's also there current standard),but they sure string you along for what seems like an eternity;they have to conduct a PLAR(prior learning assessment review)to confirm your course is legitimate.The stupid thing is,i went through the same process a a year or so ago and was oferred a job after my PLAR was approved,but declined at the time for various reasons on recieving an offer.I was told that they are still going on my old application and just resubmitted it this time,but since it was resubmitted,they have to do another PLAR.Some clown in recruiting flat out told me that it will be approved and they all know this based on my previous offer,but until a specific clown elsewhere says yes,i just have to wait.What an ass backwards system considering med tech is on the CF urgent list,or at least it was.I guess my point is i'm fed up with waiting on them to give me a start date and started to investigate the UK option.I was supposed to start for the CF in mid Jan and have had my dates bumped repeatedly due to this PLAR hold up.The really annoying thing is that they are still taking untrained med Techs,which is not a bad thing,but a trained one is more cost effective.I talked to a guy who went in untrained,just finished basic(14 weeks) and now has to wait up to one year to take the PCP course,in the meantime they have him on base doing filing and making coffee to justify his paycheck.Once he does get a course he has 9 months of school for the PCP course and can finally start his job,meanwhile almost 3 years of his 6 year contract is up before he can even do his job.I can work as a Med Tech on completion of basic and will bipass that training,but i still wait.

Sorry for the dragged out message and i appreciate your help,you make some solid points. You've given me some things to think about.
 
#10
Mate to be honest.........its not worth it. You'll gain no accreditation, will have to do the most basic of tests to gain even the most basic of currently (Civilian) unrecognised qualifications in the RAMC.
This is worrying to me as I was led to believe that after training as a CMT you would be qualified enough to become a civilian paramedic.

The whole reason I chose CMT as my first choice job is because I thought it would in the long run be beneficial for when I eventually did leave the army, if what you said is true then I would prefer to join as infantry. I will have to think about both jobs a bit more before making my mind up.
 
#11
This is worrying to me as I was led to believe that after training as a CMT you would be qualified enough to become a civilian paramedic.
I was under that impression (all those years ago).

Nowhere near, but it stands you in good stead should you decide to do an EMT-B course
 
#12
Paramedic route is still an option, the UKSF med gp train their medic to HPC Paramedic level and then degree/PG cert etc afterwards. There are options are available, you just have to get off your arse and look for them.
 
#13
Paramedic route is still an option, the UKSF med gp train their medics to HPC Paramedic level and then degree/PG cert etc afterwards. There are options are available, you just have to get off your arse and look for them.
 
#14
Paramedic route is still an option, the UKSF med gp train their medics to HPC Paramedic level and then degree/PG cert etc afterwards. There are options are available, you just have to get off your arse and look for them.
MSG isn't part of the normal career path though is it.
 
#16
You might well want to have a good look into that as a CMT, of whatever grade, is NOT able to work as a UK registered civilian paramedic. Depending on a number of things, you may be able to count the experience towards the training needed to become a paramedic, which will be through a 2-3 year university course that you'll have to pay for.

JP
 
#17
You might well want to have a good look into that as a CMT, of whatever grade, is NOT able to work as a UK registered civilian paramedic. Depending on a number of things, you may be able to count the experience towards the training needed to become a paramedic, which will be through a 2-3 year university course that you'll have to pay for.

JP
I think you have picked me up wrong, I am a IHCD trained and qualified Paramedic who is registered with the HPC and I serve as a regular RAMC medic (at present a med PSI). I have also been lucky enough to achieve a Post Graduate Certificate with distinction grade in delivering healthcare in austere environments.

There are around about 50ish of us HPC registered paramedics (I think). At present we stay current and competent in a number of ways like deploying on tour or by either flying on a air ambulance, working on cars and trucks as part of the trust or as a bank paramedic and working in a ED.

Some of us registered by accredited prior learning and then via grandfather rights, which have now stopped and the rest of us had to complete the IHCD Ambulance Technician bridging course then we completed the various technician tests after that there was a very daunting interview with a panel of senior paramedics and doctors after which those of us who made it through sat the IHCD pre paramedic tests and then started the actual IHCD paramedic course.

Some of us have also been lucky enough to be put through and achieve BSC and MSC courses, while others have used ELC to fund their particular degree course, we can also apply for funding to allow us to attempt the DIP IMC(RSCed) & ALS while courses like BATLS,PHEC,PPHLS,and MIMMS are free for us to do.

Hope this helps clear a few things up.

Chris.
 
#18
As I have said on another thread, the army aren't really into the paramedic thing, I don't know why, I think CMT is easier to spell.

There is room for improvement in CMT army medical training. I would love to see further training for the boys and girls and what CD05 has done is admirable.

Nurses are trained as nurses. ODPs are trained as ODPs. At the sharp end, the pre hospital care end there, is a void.

Team medics have raised the bar in immediate care and we could raise it further with investing in our best CMTs, and surely registered paramedic, like nurse and ODP has to be the gold standard.

There must be a reason the army doesn't and the RAF does. But I don't know it.

CMT is miles behind qualified paramedic.
 

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